[ithos]

Originally Posted by KAM+6

It is when you have a court order to save all communications.
Also, Karen used signal to communicate and send false information to her friend in California, Natalie. Natalie would then send to Turdboy, blogger to harass and intimidate witnesses, family of John OKeefe, their friends, children, and anyone supporting the OKeefes. However, Natalie took screenshots of everything and has taken a plea deal.

Turd boy has 18 felony charges, his trial is coming up. Stay tuned.

There were no tail light fragments on the lawn the night of the murder. If so they would have been easily spotted by the dozen or more persons on the scene.
Do you know why Apperture(who were paid $400k) didn't perform a reenactment of the accident to demonstrate how a tailight lens could break into dozens of pieces upon impact with a human arm? Because it is an absolute impossibility. And even if the lens was fragile enough to fracture it would not have caused the type of wounds on O'keefes arm and the entire lens would not have been missing. (illustration attached). Those parallel lacerations were obviously caused by an animal. These are what dog bites look like Log into Facebook.

And what was the excuse of the police for not searching for ring cameras on the block? That is the first thing they look for when there are no witnesses. And why in the world didn't they check on the people inside the house? And why didn't Brian Albert, a policeman, step outside to see what all the commotion was about?

[ithos]

What is more strange is that Canton Police Department supervisor Sgt. Michael Lank lived a few houses away from 34 Fairview Road, within a very short walking distance from the scene. He never went to the scene.

[ithos]

And here is the testimony of a police officer who assisted in towing Karen Read's SUV away from her house after the murder. He testified that there were cracks but most of the lens was in still there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb8xjHDwLy8
Sergeant Nicholas Barros testified that when he saw Karen Read’s SUV in Dighton, the taillight damage was nowhere near as severe as the photos now being shown in court. He says it was cracked but intact, with bulbs and tabs still in place. So why did the damage look so much worse after the vehicle had been moved to Canton PD, under Trooper Proctor’s supervision? This video breaks down the suspicious timeline, lack of documentation, and what it could mean for the prosecution’s case.

[KAM+6]

Originally Posted by ithos

There were no tail light fragments on the lawn the night of the murder. If so they would have been easily spotted by the dozen or more persons on the scene.
Do you know why Apperture(who were paid $400k) didn't perform a reenactment of the accident to demonstrate how a tailight lens could break into dozens of pieces upon impact with a human arm? Because it is an absolute impossibility. And even if the lens was fragile enough to fracture it would not have caused the type of wounds on O'keefes arm and the entire lens would not have been missing. (illustration attached). Those parallel lacerations were obviously caused by an animal. These are what dog bites look like Log into Facebook.

And what was the excuse of the police for not searching for ring cameras on the block? That is the first thing they look for when there are no witnesses. And why in the world didn't they check on the people inside the house? And why didn't Brian Albert, a policeman, step outside to see what all the commotion was about?

All the taillight pieces ,47 found of various sizes , were found under at least 2+ feet of snow. There was a Noreaster blizzard that night, howling winds and snow drifts, snow started just before midnight. John was also buried under a huge mound of drifting snow. Karen describes him "A buffalo on the prairie"

Every murder investigation in Ma is done by the SERT team, MSP trained to collect evidence, not by local police. Its impossible to search in blinding snow, unprecedented winds until it calmed down. First SERT arrived at 5 pm, 7 more within 30 mi. A news crew , filming, and several police and msp. They worked shoulder to shoulder, shovel out a snow bank at street 3 feet high. Found first piece about 5:40 and many others after. All the while news crew was filming and SERT team member was also filming. Some pieces were found days later when snow started melting. All pieces were found on the grass, under the snow. Karen's car was in possession of her parents at their house 40 miles away, they can to johns house and retrieved it around 1pm. State police traveled to Dighton, interviewed Karen with her father present, took her phone.
By the way, she refused to give them the passcode. It took several months , running it thru software to retrieve passcode.

Her SUV went into the sallyport heated garage, AFTER first piece of taillight was found. All filmed on dash cam following tow truck with timestamps.
Absolutely NO taillight pieces were planted under 3 foot snowbank. At least 20 people would be involved, police and news crew. And, if they were going to "frame her"
why wouldn't they take her car immediately not 8 hours later???

ARCRA, defence tech stream experts, were paid originally $500 by state, did crash dummy testing, showing dummy elbow breaking taillight and smashing into 19 pieces with wide debris field. Throwing the dummy along side , but not touching the car, spinning and held by harness would have sent it up on the lawn.
Polycarbonate totally shatters in cold weather. ARCCA test were done in mild temperatures and sneaky them used a crash dummy 5'9" 171pounds, John was 6'1" 216 pounds. He would have more force .

Also, Johns sneaker, hat, glass that Karen said he took from her car, was also buried under the snow. All the snow around the house, driveway, covering homeowner cars, door entrance of 3 doors and steps was pristine. No tire marks or footprints until after john was found by KARENS X-Ray eyes under foot of snow, describing him as "A buffalo on the prairie"

The marks on his are were diagnosed as "Superficial abrasions" by 4 medical examiners, even defence "expert". How was there a dog fight with NO dog HAIRS, NO Dog DNA , NO lower dog teeth NO puncture wounds???

Neighbors with ring camera said that their only recorded front doors and were motion detection.

Kerry, was driving, Jen in passenger seat, Karen in rear between front seats.
When Kerry approached Alberta far left property line, Karen started screaming and kicking the door to get out. Kerry stopped and Karen, with her snow X-Ray eyes, ran to " A buffalo on the prairie ". Keep in mind, she had never been to that house before that night. He was near bushes a fire hydrant and a flagpole, with circular pavers ,and utility box. All this is Karen's own words from 20/20, Dateline, other media.

Kerry stopped at property line, police cruiser with dash cam, behind but not to close so everything can be recorded, Ambulance behind police. Fire truck behind ambulance. All of these vehicles, except Kerry, were NOT in front of Alberta house but I front of neighbors house. NONE of neighbors came out.

Brian Albert had been on a5am flight to NY to attend a funeral for a officer killed in the line of fire. He drove back with Higgins, arriving back to canton 8pm and joined his family for dinner that evening. Finally getting to bed around 2am . Police and firemen will tell you they have blackout curtains because the work night shifts and need to sleep days. Also, Alberts house an neighbors have train tracks, literally, in their back yards.
There was howling winds, NONE of first responder vehicles has sirens on. All you can hear is windshield wipers on dash cam.

When Jen woke Brian, he came down immediately and police were in his house. John had already left in the ambulance. In fact, if he went out, the narrative would be that he was planting evidence by the FKR wackos.

[KAM+6]

Originally Posted by ithos

What is more strange is that Canton Police Department supervisor Sgt. Michael Lank lived a few houses away from 34 Fairview Road, within a very short walking distance from the scene. He never went to the scene.

Sargent Lank does not live near Fairview. He was the one that came into the house with Jen that morning, when she woke Brian. Why don't you watch the trial???

[KAM+6]

Originally Posted by ithos

And here is the testimony of a police officer who assisted in towing Karen Read's SUV away from her house after the murder. He testified that there were cracks but most of the lens was in still there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb8xjHDwLy8
Sergeant Nicholas Barros testified that when he saw Karen Read’s SUV in Dighton, the taillight damage was nowhere near as severe as the photos now being shown in court. He says it was cracked but intact, with bulbs and tabs still in place. So why did the damage look so much worse after the vehicle had been moved to Canton PD, under Trooper Proctor’s supervision? This video breaks down the suspicious timeline, lack of documentation, and what it could mean for the prosecution’s case.

Barros recanted under cross. The taillight he saw was packed with snow, he was standing, out of the blizzard in the garage, he only saw a distant side view. You can see the broken twilight when tow driver drives on tow truck.

WOW, Barrow never wrote a complete report. Drove over 2 hours to Omni hotel to meet with Jacka$$ , just to give him his address to mail summons??? Posed for pictures with FKRERS. , one with a F..k Biden shirt.

From the links you post, its obvious you never watched the trial. The trial is on court tv but you chose to get your "alternative Facts" from bloggers. Why don't you watch both side in a court of law.

Why has Karen's sister or her sister in law never been in court to support her. Her brother was convicted of grand theft larceny. Daddy got him probation and paid restitution. Fired from present job, his wife is on ring camera looking at broken taillight is divorcing him.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by KAM+6

From the links you post, its obvious you never watched the trial. The trial is on court tv but you chose to get your "alternative Facts" from bloggers. Why don't you watch both side in a court of law.

12 Independent Jurors watched the trial, live and in person. They unanimously decided that you're wrong and Karen Read was Not Guilty.

Give it up. It's done. You're wrongl

[KAM+6]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

12 Independent Jurors watched the trial, live and in person. They unanimously decided that you're wrong and Karen Read was Not Guilty.

Give it up. It's done. You're wrongl

OK Simpson Casey Anthony. Comes to mind. . Juror 11 ran to the press. Her father in law, from Egypt, was arrested and convicted of stealing classified defence documents. Spent time in Federal prison and deported. Also, When the checked his computer they found child pornography. Do you think she put that on her jury questionnaire???

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by KAM+6

Juror 11 ran to the press. Her father in law, from Egypt, was arrested and convicted of stealing classified defence documents. Spent time in Federal prison and deported. Also, When the checked his computer they found child pornography. Do you think she put that on her jury questionnaire???

Paula Prado is a licensed attorney in Brazil and has an MBA. She happened to marry someone whose father served time, so that somehow makes her incompetent or biased?

[ithos]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Paula Prado is a licensed attorney in Brazil and has an MBA. She happened to marry someone whose father served time, so that somehow makes her incompetent or biased?

Wow!

[KAM+6]

She Obviously lied on her jury questioner. " Have you or anyone in your FAMILY been convicted of criminal charges". She ran to the press and she uses 4 aliases. Scrubbed her Facebook posts. WOW, with all her education, why is she a checkout clerk at Target. ??

[ithos]

Originally Posted by KAM+6

She Obviously lied on her jury questioner. " Have you or anyone in your FAMILY been convicted of criminal charges". She ran to the press and she uses 4 aliases. Scrubbed her Facebook posts. WOW, with all her education, why is she a checkout clerk at Target. ??

Are you going to dig up dirt on the other eleven jurors?

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by KAM+6

with all her education, why is she a checkout clerk at Target. ??

It's not really fair to make judgements based on someone's chosen career path or how they spend their time. Folks are entitled to live their lives as the chose.

She might feel working at Target offers her less stress and more time to spend with her 4 young children, rather than spending her life in front of a keyboard and/or TV, researching, commenting and editorializing on other folk's legal issues.

[KAM+6]

So, You think that harassment and intimidation of witnesses and the family of John, even children are OK. Including ANYONE that supports the OKeefes.

How would you like a "rolling rally" over 100 cars outside your house, with bullhorns, calling you murders ??. Outside your job??? At your children's sports events and school?? Unrelenting harassment and death threats so you won't testify?? Death threats to the judge, who needed security. Threats to jurors if they didn't get the outcome they want??

Is that the way you think trials should be conducted, on social media by the "Mob" you saw outside the court. All orchestrated by Karen and her team of bloggers. You know, the bloggers sitting with her family in court. The links you posted on this page?? They are making a living of this case with the conspiracy.

Toilet turd has 18 felony charges with his trial coming up next week. He has already posted a warning to Karen stating he'll throw her under the bus to save himself.

Is that the way trials are conducted now and in the future??

[ithos]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

It's not really fair to make judgements based on someone's chosen career path or how they spend their time. Folks are entitled to live their lives as the chose.

She might feel working at Target offers her less stress and more time to spend with her 4 young children, rather than spending her life in front of a keyboard and/or TV, researching, commenting and editorializing on other folk's legal issues.

In the US she does not meet the requirments to practice law. She was very impressive in the several podcasts that I watched.