[KAM+6]

That FACTS are JOHN NEVER entered the house. Her SUV black box data recorded john exited her car, air bag disengaged. SUV went forward 34', slammed in reverse at 24 mi clipped john throwing him 10 into the lawn hitting his head on the frozen ground or rock. Johns phone NEVER moved again until after he was found, thermometer in phone continually went down over 20 degrees. She called him 54 times and every call pinged at where he was found. The car tech stream and GPS phone date is bulletproof. He was found with her microscopic taillight pieces in his hoodie. NO dog DNA, NO lower dog teeth and not a single dog hair.
Only Karen found him under 6" of snow. She said on video " I expected to find him there"

[ithos]

Originally Posted by KAM+6

Defense took one frame but if you see where she puts the brake on you can see the broken taillight compared to the left taillight, its clearly missing. Also, the 820 am wellness check on children. Twilight pieces were found by forensic SERT team, with police watching and news crew filming.
Just the fact that you use the word McAlberts, shows you get your false information from Turdboy, who has 18 felony charges pending his trial. Karen killed john and left him to die in the Blizzard. First she said she left him at the bar,left a message "nobody knows where the F you are. then she said a plow must have hit him then her lawyer said at her arraignment a nd to the press, " it was an uintentional accident ". Then it was Colin. Allie NEVER said John was in the house. She picked up Colin at 12:10 confirmed by phone a d GPS. Karen arrived outside at 12:24 confirmed by GPS a d phone. Her black box shows John exited her car, air bag disengaged, and she pulled forward 34', slammed it in reverse and john dies in 17 seconds. His phone never moved again until after he was found hours later. She called him 54 times during those hours and his phone pinged every time at flagpole area.

Rehashing prosecution lies is not going to prove anything. And this is not the forum to debate the trial.

But I must dispel one of your assertions. Most of the exculpatory evidence was from the FBI. The were investigating the state police.

The federal government provided 3,074 pages of documents from their investigation of Read’s case before her trial last April in Dedham’s Norfolk Superior Court. The documents included Trooper Michael Proctor’s offensive text messages about Read, grand jury testimony from prosecution witness Brian Higgins about the destruction of his cell phone, and findings from ARCCA, an engineering consulting firm that concluded that O’Keefe’s injuries did not appear to come from a vehicle strike.
25 Investigates: Federal investigation of Karen Read case is over, sources say – Boston 25 News
Karen Read defense team says federal expert found John O'Keefe was not hit by SUV - CBS Boston

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by ithos

Rehashing prosecution lies is not going to prove anything. And this is not the forum to debate the trial.

But I must dispel one of your assertions. Most of the exculpatory evidence was from the FBI. The were investigating the state police.

Some folks aren't swayed by facts that don't suit their narrative. You're 100% right. The FBI was very clear about their conclusion, that O'Keefe wasn't killed by an automobile collision.

Luckily, Karen Read got a jury that paid attention. The Prosecution's case was built on smoke & mirrors

[MrChip72]

This is a perfect example of why it's easier to get away with unplanned murder than premeditated murder.

No suspicious purchases or texts beforehand, no damning Google searches, etc.

[KAM+6]

No FBI testified in either trial. ARCCA was paid by the defence. They had a court order to turn over all comunications as complying with law 14 discovery. The yunlawfully deleated over 100 email and text. Lied to the judge,used signal app to commucate with defence, all tne while telling the court they were not paid and are independent.They are tech stream data experts, Yet, they never looked at the black box, the sneaker , hat broken glass found with body. Said it wasn't in their scope.

Reitchler, in the Middle of testimony stopped and "wished his son a happy birthday". WTF???

[KAM+6]

ARCCA shows crash dummy backing up 24 mi HR into arm position bent holding glass. Hit dummy, spinning it, breaking taillight and throwing it forward to right . They were even sneaky using a small 170# dummy, John was 6'1" 216#. Also SUV was in 18 degree cold for over at least 4 hours. Polycarbonate shattered in cold weather.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by KAM+6

No FBI testified in either trial. ARCCA was paid by the defence. They had a court order to turn over all comunications as complying with law 14 discovery. The yunlawfully deleated over 100 email and text. Lied to the judge,used signal app to commucate with defence, all tne while telling the court they were not paid and are independent.They are tech stream data experts, Yet, they never looked at the black box, the sneaker , hat broken glass found with body. Said it wasn't in their scope.

Reitchler, in the Middle of testimony stopped and "wished his son a happy birthday". WTF???

Could you maybe explain that more plainly? What is yunlawfully, what is the black box, who had the court order, what is law 14 discovery? What is signal app? Who are the tech stream data experts?

[mike234]

Originally Posted by mikreb

Colin Albert did it. McAlberts would not protect Higgins, but they expected him to protect them. They texted Higgins after the incident because Higgins went dark and they thought he was talking. Ally McAbe said in the first trial "Colin wasn't in the house when John was." So John was in the house. They were covering for Colin. Colin had bruised knuckles. Garage had red stains.

yup

[ithos]

Originally Posted by KAM+6

Karen Read is a insanely jealous DRUNK. ...... She went forward 34', slammed it in reverse 84' . She clipped john , he was thrown 10' up the lawn. She took off with A broken taillight, Microscopic taillight shards were later found by forensic specialists. .....

So she was drunk and still was able to floor it in reverse for over 80ft at night in poor light conditions and slamming into her boyfriend and launching him 15ft onto the lawn or driveway. She must have been one hell of driver.

But if so these facts are hard to explain:
No Lower-Extremity Bruising or Fractures
lacerations to the Shins, Thighs, or Pelvic area

Also, in reenactments it took several blows with a hammer to completely break and remove all pieces of the thick poly carbonate lens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBqMcX4jgeA

Unfortunately for the prosecution there were pictures and videos of Karen Reads tail light illuminated with the lens almost completely intact after the time of the alledged murder. According to more than one juror this proved beyond any doubt that she was innocent.

[KAM+6]

Originally Posted by CFrance

Could you maybe explain that more plainly? What is yunlawfully, what is the black box, who had the court order, what is law 14 discovery? What is signal app? Who are the tech stream data experts?

The y unlawfully an error the y belongs to the word in they. The black box is the tech stream data that records data in newer vehicles . She had a high end Lexus . All witnesses are required to turn over a report and communications to defence and prosecution. ARCCA had a court order to keep and turn over all communications with defence, they violated that order. Signal app is an encrypted app that deletes messages in 30 minutes and can't traced. Two tech stream experts from ARCCA testified for the defense. Neither of them contradicted the evidence of her car backing up 24 mi hr or time of trigger event.

[KAM+6]

Originally Posted by ithos

So she was drunk and still was able to floor it in reverse for over 80ft at night in poor light conditions and slamming into her boyfriend and launching him 15ft onto the lawn or driveway. She must have been one hell of driver.

But if so these facts are hard to explain:
No Lower-Extremity Bruising or Fractures
lacerations to the Shins, Thighs, or Pelvic area

Also, in reenactments it took several blows with a hammer to completely break and remove all pieces of the thick poly carbonate lens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBqMcX4jgeA

Unfortunately for the prosecution there were pictures and videos of Karen Reads tail light illuminated with the lens almost completely intact after the time of the alledged murder. According to more than one juror this proved beyond any doubt that she was innocent.

That video was not credible , why didn't you use the one shown in court by ARCCA. Clearly shows taillight shattered by elbow on dummy and throwing him forward along side of car . Shattered taillight pieces flying in all directions. According to ARCCA defence Wolfe , taillight was not broken when she backed out of garage and purposely tapped john car. No pieces is dusting of snow . Look at car showing both taillights, clearly shows missing piece on right.

[KAM+6]

Originally Posted by Eg_cruz

After reading and watching
I don’t think she killed him. I think there was a fight at the home and he most likely left but fell or passed out in the snow. How else can one explain the dog bites and scratches on his arm. The swollen eyes and blunt force trauma to the back of his head.
I don’t think it was meant to be a frame job. I don’t think the people I the house knew he was laying in the snow until Karen called and told them he was missing.

The FACT is tech stream data from her car and GPS and health data from his phone is bulletproof that he NEVER entered the house. Timestamp showed he exited her car, air bag disengaged, was hit within 17 seconds. His phone NEVER MOVED until after he was found hours later. She called him 54 times, starting 4 minutes later,, full of rage and F bombs. Every call pinged at flagpole area. Defence ARCCA never contradicted data or GPS. ME testified arm was superficial abrasions. NO DOG DNA, NO LOWER teeth marks, NOt one dog HAIR.

[KAM+6]

Originally Posted by ithos

Rehashing prosecution lies is not going to prove anything. And this is not the forum to debate the trial.

But I must dispel one of your assertions. Most of the exculpatory evidence was from the FBI. The were investigating the state police.

The federal government provided 3,074 pages of documents from their investigation of Read’s case before her trial last April in Dedham’s Norfolk Superior Court. The documents included Trooper Michael Proctor’s offensive text messages about Read, grand jury testimony from prosecution witness Brian Higgins about the destruction of his cell phone, and findings from ARCCA, an engineering consulting firm that concluded that O’Keefe’s injuries did not appear to come from a vehicle strike.
25 Investigates: Federal investigation of Karen Read case is over, sources say – Boston 25 News
Karen Read defense team says federal expert found John O'Keefe was not hit by SUV - CBS Boston

FBI never made a statement . Defence hired ARCCA and under cross exam conceded he could have been and provided crash dummy tests showing Lexus backing up 24 mi , hitting elbow, shattering taillight and throwing him 10 feet, head hitting hard frozen ground. She said on 20/20 " he didn't look MORTALLY wounded. " That would be when you dropped him off? " Yes, it would have to be".

[mikreb]

Originally Posted by KAM+6

Signal app is an encrypted app

Most messaging apps are encrypted these days. FB messenger, Imessage, even android has started using RCS encrypted messaging. In the words of Jen Mcabe, "nothing nefarious going on here"

[KAM+6]

It is when you have a court order to save all communications.
Also, Karen used signal to communicate and send false information to her friend in California, Natalie. Natalie would then send to Turdboy, blogger to harass and intimidate witnesses, family of John OKeefe, their friends, children, and anyone supporting the OKeefes. However, Natalie took screenshots of everything and has taken a plea deal.

Turd boy has 18 felony charges, his trial is coming up. Stay tuned.