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CNM, I totally agree. I want there to be professional behavior at work. I want sexual harassment to stop. I want it to be brought out in the open so that an individual feels free to say that behavior is not acceptable. However, I don’t want to see careers destroyed, marriages hurt, families completely humiliated because of bad behavior that was considered semi-acceptable at the time it was committed. Sexual predators, rapists, child molesters, stalkers — go get ‘em. Lock ‘me up and throw away the key. For the others, let them know their behavior will no longer be tolerated and any bad act from henceforth will be grounds for immediate termination, prosecution, public humiliation and civil lawsuits. I do believe in fair warnings.
i disagree, termination is not the same as jail. The punishment should fit the crime no matter what it is. They knew they were doing wrong and they hurt people.
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Old 11-30-2017, 07:38 AM
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CNM, I totally agree. I want there to be professional behavior at work. I want sexual harassment to stop. I want it to be brought out in the open so that an individual feels free to say that behavior is not acceptable. However, I don’t want to see careers destroyed, marriages hurt, families completely humiliated because of bad behavior that was considered semi-acceptable at the time it was committed. Sexual predators, rapists, child molesters, stalkers — go get ‘em. Lock ‘me up and throw away the key. For the others, let them know their behavior will no longer be tolerated and any bad act from henceforth will be grounds for immediate termination, prosecution, public humiliation and civil lawsuits. I do believe in fair warnings.
I find myself agreeing with your posts more and more.
During the time that I was a young woman in a professional office it was known that certain men in higher positions were to be watched constantly, and we learned never to shut the office door when you were in with these people, and we also learned that it was useless to go to Human Resources about their behavior because the woman was always blamed for being too attractive, or dressing too provocatively, or being a FLIRT! We knew (in those days) that we were second class citizens in the business world and we learned how to protect ourselves. With the advent of the Women's Movement things changed in the courts, but really nothing much changed in the corporate offices. Young attractive females were still considered "available".

I was very fortunate to have been raised by a wonderful Father and a very strong professional Mother. He taught me that men are kind and supportive and she taught me to never let my guard down at work or any other place, and to always "act" like a lady around men. "Don't give them the idea you are EASY." Never rely on your looks, make sure your ability lives up to your looks.

Plus, I was a female in the work place when jobs were plentiful! I did not have to worry about finding another job if I left this one.
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Old 11-30-2017, 07:58 AM
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Old 11-30-2017, 08:27 AM
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This is going to take a toll on humor. Even Madison Avenue will probably be changing it's tune. sigh.

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This is going to take a toll on humor. Even Madison Avenue will probably be changing it's tune. sigh.

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Humor died a long time ago once political correctness took over. I think one of the funniest movies of all time was Blazing Saddles which just offended everyone.
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It was a hollywood culture that was the norm in the past.
Now the present has made it news worthy.
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Many men including Matt Lauer have been accused of sexual improprieties and it is being acted upon. IMHO it should be. The thing that confuses me is that several presidents have also been accused and nothing has been done. Why not? All people who have preyed on women should be punished, no matter who they are.
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Many men including Matt Lauer have been accused of sexual improprieties and it is being acted upon. IMHO it should be. The thing that confuses me is that several presidents have also been accused and nothing has been done. Why not? All people who have preyed on women should be punished, no matter who they are.
Ray Rice comes to mind.
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I am confused by some comments. Is anybody here willing to defend Matt Lauer?
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I am confused by some comments. Is anybody here willing to defend Matt Lauer?
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There is no defense for abuse of power.
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There is no defense for abuse of power.
I don't know what happened.Someone could have wanted revenge for being pushed aside in her career or in his life.

Or could have wanted money. There is always that. Or he could be a low life nasty man.

But I kind of doubt it.
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It's not a witch hunt when the culprit is admitting some of the deeds.

People are not all black or white. There is some good and bad in all of us. It just depends which side of that wins out. Or where one's head goes once achieving wealth and stardom.

Compare Matt Lauer to Paul Newman.
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Old 12-01-2017, 11:28 PM
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There is no defense for abuse of power.
Agreed.

Or for those that attack the victim, enable and make excuses for the abusers...or try to defend them based purely on emotion.
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