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Old 08-15-2022, 07:05 AM
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Getting back to majority rules would be helpful. Too many small groups wagging the dog.
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Old 08-15-2022, 07:08 AM
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We were never majority rules.
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Old 08-15-2022, 07:11 AM
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One nine year term for senators and one six year term for representatives. Replace one third of each body every three years. Any person would be limited to one term in each body and two terms as president in their lifetime. Eliminate all congressional re-election campaigns.
It's interesting to note that many, many members of local Village CDD boards were appointed at the creation of that board and continue to serve for many, many years as no one runs against them. Good or bad ??
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We were never majority rules.
I agree. Not all of the eligible voters, vote.

Many countries have compulsory voting. I think America would benefit if we had it also; every eligible voter in America must vote in every election or have a good reason why not. It would go a long way toward restoring confidence in our system.
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Old 08-15-2022, 07:17 AM
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We need to protect the republic which protects the minority as opposed to democracy which can become mob rule
Agreed, the problem is most people think they are the minority.
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Old 08-15-2022, 07:27 AM
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I have for a long time been an advocate of mandatory voting. I have spent time in Ecuador and they require all citizens to vote by law, or they are fined. They also "require" visitors to Ecuador to vote.

With all that is going on today, and how people have become entrenched in their sides lines, I am changing my mind. A long time ago a different system was proposed and debated. It has been tried in various places and various times for a couple thousand years. We even use it here in some cases.

It is called sortition. It has been argued that voting system always end up with an oligarchy (what we have today, where the rich and powerful own the government). A sortition system picks citizens are "random" so that the representatives reflect the people. This completely eliminates the presence of money from the selection process. We use this today in many community councils, in jury selections, etc.
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Old 08-15-2022, 07:34 AM
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Don't let anyone over 65 run for, or remain in high office.
Nothing new ever comes from old people.
Too immersed in the past.
But is it not from the past that we learn from our mistakes? Who better to learn from than those who might have lived through them. Just a thought.
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Old 08-15-2022, 07:36 AM
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Both sides of the problem have loud, armed, violent clusters of people running around inciting violence
Not true! Right now it is only one side who is armed and a threat. I can sense what side you are on!
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Old 08-15-2022, 07:42 AM
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The largest threat to our country comes from within. (Trying to be PC). However, I do believe in FAITH OVER FEAR, and GOOD WILL TRIUMPH OVER EVIL, eventually.
I would not put too much faith in faith, or good.
Through history, the strong have always triumphed over the weak.
Only negotiations from a position of strength are worth a s**t!
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Old 08-15-2022, 07:53 AM
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But is it not from the past that we learn from our mistakes? Who better to learn from than those who might have lived through them. Just a thought.
The West poured $ trillions and manpower into Afghanistan.
US. Poured $Trillions and lost a generation of its finest youth in Viet Nam.
Not much past history looked at by the old men who ran those shows!
By all means consult the older, and alleged wiser generation, but let the ones who have to implement these policies decide on what actions to take.
Too many old men on end of life ego trips, dragging the world down!
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Old 08-15-2022, 07:58 AM
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To kill the beast, why not emulate our southern neighbors and take away the holy grail of presidential reelection campaigns
nuff said[/QUOTE]

And THAT is why Mexico is such a screwed up, violent, poverty stricken third world country.
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Old 08-15-2022, 08:07 AM
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TRUTH will survive lies, (Dragnet, Jack Webb quote, "Give me the facts, ONLY the facts)
Americans will meet in the middle and extremes will be a thing of the past.
I love our country and hope we will survive this bump in the road.
Tone down rhetoric, research all sources.
I think we all know who the main players are, spewing out hard-core misinformation, which becomes addictive to the ill-informed.. There is nothing stopping this, thus it will continue to spread like cancer.

This is how great empires fail, often suddenly and catastrophically.
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Old 08-15-2022, 08:07 AM
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When you get a minute or three, google and read the five stages of a society. You may be surprised.
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Old 08-15-2022, 08:14 AM
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Not true! Right now it is only one side who is armed and a threat. I can sense what side you are on!
You are referring to Antifa right?
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Old 08-15-2022, 08:17 AM
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I wish there was some evidence of your belief. I’ve concluded that I won’t see peaceful co-existence of Americans with differing political and social views. History shows that even the strongest societies have definite lifespans. I’m afraid the American democracy is moving towards the end of it’s life span.

Unfortunately America seems to be headed towards a system of governance that caused our forefathers to leave their homes and travel to the New World to form the democracy that has served us so well for going on 300 years. Where do Americans who wish to escape the current political conflict go? That’s a question with a very uncertain answer.
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