[jimbo2012]

Not blaming him at all, just saying he isn't promoting this for the employees.



On another note, it's funny when you go out to eat you do all the tip calculation for what ever %, but do you think the waiters really know what it should be?

[Bill32]

Marlene O'toole, House

Capitol Office
222 The Capitol
402 South Monroe Street
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1300
Phone: (850) 488-5991
Map/Driving Directions
District Office:
916 Avenida Central
The Villages, FL 32159-5704
Phone: (352) 315-4445
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Alan Hayes, state senate

Capitol Office:
324 Senate Office Building
404 South Monroe Street
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1100
Phone: 850-487-5014
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District Office:
871 South Central Avenue
Umatilla, FL 32784
Phone: 352-742-6441
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[Bill32]

We went to both their village offices a few months ago and was told by both that it was a dead issue for this year. I'll go back and see if anything changed.

[bluedog103]

Originally Posted by John_W

This is really nothing new. While growing up in St. Petersburg my first two jobs while going to junior college in '68 - '69 were in the food business, and in both I made a $1.00 an hour plus tips even though minimum wage at the time was $2.60. You did make up for it in tips and as a kid I always liked having the cash in my pocket, but your right, it meant more money for the owners.

Minimum wage in 1968 and 1969 was $1.60. If you were making a buck an hour plus tips that probably wasn't bad money. The minimum wage didn't hit $2.60 until 1978.

[Redrok]

OK, I'm going to step in it.

I don't like tipping. I do tip, but what is a GOOD tip? Why is it based on the bill? When I eat at Frisch's Big Boy and have a $17.00 total dinner bill and a $3.40 (20% tip) verses a $50.00 total dinner bill will be a $10.00 (20%). I see them serving the same number of customers, bringing me the same number of drink refills and often cleaning their own tables. It just doesn't seem fair to me.

I do like to tip to reward good service, but I hate having to tip just to make sure the servers can have a decent wage.

That's my 2 cents.

[asianthree]

at some resturants the bills for each server are added up and a % is reported to the goverment. So if some one over tips they win if someone stiffs them they loose all the way around.. not fair, but the goverment wants to make sure they get their money even if the servers don't

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by Mickedamouse24

For the life of me, I do not understand how any food business can get away with not paying their waiter/waitresses at least minimum wage! If they expect their customers to subsidize their help, then maybe they need to lower the absorbent prices on their meals!!!

They have to be able to demonstrate that the server is making at least minimum wage with salary and tips combined. I don't think that's a problem for most servers.

By having this kind of system servers are able to make a lot more money. If they got paid minimum wage, the cost of the meal would increase and people wouldn't tip as much. I lived in country where there is no tipping and servers get minimum wage and they pretty much make minimum wage. Almost no one tips except for Americans who are so used to tipping that we feel guilty if we don't.

[bonrich]

Originally Posted by RichieLion

Of course this bill is in the interests of the restauranteur, but it can also be in the interests of the employee if it indeed does not significantly reduce their "real" wages by affording more opportunity for increased hours available to work.

All restaurants hampered by the higher wage scale in place often understaff and thus the customer is inconvenienced. This new plan, I'm told, should lead to better service through added staff, resulting in a more successful business and better served clientele.

Will that all happen??..........it depends on how good the business is, I guess.

That is true in one sense, added staff, but what happens with increased staff is less tables assigned to a waitperson thus lessening the amount to be made. Some staff that we know from our area restaurants have left because of that reason.

[Jerseygirl08]

Some people in TV have come up with a scheme. They order their food, then
complain that it didn't taste good using words like "bad", "sour", "rancid". The manager is called over, the bill is forgiven, then guess who pays the bill?

Yup, the server. They sometimes get stuck paying the bill - the manager accuses the server of not attending to the customer.

Also, many times, I have heard servers say people just get up and walk out without asking for a bill. Guess who pays for that? Servers have to keep an eye on all that they serve and stop them at the door if they try to skip out.

It's not easy work.

[jimbo2012]

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl08

Yup, the server. They sometimes get stuck paying the bill - the manager accuses the server of not attending to the customer.

That I'm sure is illegal, no employe is responsible for a loss to an employer due to error or neglect.

If they steal from an employer that employer can not deduct the money.

Against the labor laws.

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl08

Some people in TV have come up with a scheme. They order their food, then complain that it didn't taste good using words like "bad", "sour", "rancid". The manager is called over, the bill is forgiven.

yes happens often