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Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
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#61
10-26-2014, 09:58 AM
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Register to Vote - Florida Division of Elections - Department of State Who can register to vote in Florida? 1 Be a US citizen 2 Be a resident of Florida No gray area there. |
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#62
10-26-2014, 10:35 AM
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Back in the '60's the Town of Amherst, MA considered shortening the length of time it would take to become a legal resident...until one of town fathers figured out the change would allow the 30 thousand students attending UMass-Amherst to vote. We were already planning how to take over the town when the Town changed its mind.
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#63
10-26-2014, 11:07 AM
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...cgBS_story.htm |
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10-26-2014, 11:32 AM
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10-26-2014, 11:37 AM
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While it does hold water in MOST communities it does not in some. I would venture a guess it would hold water in not only most communities, but would be supported by the majority if put to a vote....for those with a valid ID that is 
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#66
10-26-2014, 11:49 AM
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Don't go changing my wording around to suit your own thoughts.
 As far as you venturing a guess - venture away.
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#67
10-26-2014, 11:52 AM
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#68
10-26-2014, 11:57 AM
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Posted by Blueash Can you please provide a link for your assertion that San Francisco, Seattle or other "wacko communities" are allowing non-citizens to vote? Or do you just provide invective without data. Quote:
You can read the history of the long period in the US when immigrants (of course only male white ones) had voting rights. 1928 was the first election in which nowhere in the US could a non-citizen legally vote. Right of foreigners to vote in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I am not here to defend or attack the idea of returning to allowing non-citizen voting. I just care about accuracy and honesty and am watching for disingenuous and unsupported claims. |
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#69
10-26-2014, 12:09 PM
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It's a national matter!
"In 2005, the U.S. Government Accountability Office found that up to 3 percent of the 30,000 individuals called for jury duty from voter registration rolls over a two-year period in just one U.S. district court were not U.S. citizens.[1] While that may not seem like many, just 3 percent of registered voters would have been more than enough to provide the winning presidential vote margin in Florida in 2000. Indeed, the Census Bureau estimates that there are over a million illegal aliens in Florida,[2] and the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) has prosecuted more non-citizen voting cases in Florida than in any other state.[3] Florida is not unique. Thousands of non-citizens are registered to vote in some states, and tens if not hundreds of thousands in total may be present on the voter rolls nationwide. These numbers are significant: Local elections are often decided by only a handful of votes, and even national elections have likely been within the margin of the number of non-citizens illegally registered to vote. Yet there is no reliable method to determine the number of non-citizens registered or actually voting because most laws to ensure that only citizens vote are ignored, are inadequate, or are systematically undermined by government officials. Those who ignore the implications of non-citizen registration and voting either are willfully blind to the problem or may actually favor this form of illegal voting......" The Threat of Non-Citizen Voting |
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10-26-2014, 12:14 PM
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Non US citizens voting in national elections?
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Bingo. |
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10-26-2014, 02:32 PM
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10-26-2014, 03:49 PM
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ACORN Closing in Wake of Scandal | Fox News And ACORN was never found guilty of anything. Some of its 2008 and earlier hired voter enlisting people were but every case seemed to be people trying to get paid for doing no work, not trying to scam the vote. If you want to actually see a fact check on that.. ACORN Accusations "they were trying to get paid by ACORN for doing no work. Dan Satterberg, the Republican prosecuting attorney in King County, Wash., where the largest ACORN case to date was prosecuted, said that the indicted ACORN employees were shirking responsibility, not plotting election fraud. Satterberg: [A] joint federal and state investigation has determined that this scheme was not intended to permit illegal voting. Instead, the defendants cheated their employer, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (or ACORN), to get paid for work they did not actually perform. ACORN’s lax oversight of their own voter registration drive permitted this to happen. … It was hardly a sophisticated plan: The defendants simply realized that making up names was easier than actually canvassing the streets looking for unregistered voters. … [It] appears that the employees of ACORN were not performing the work that they were being paid for, and to some extent, ACORN is a victim of employee theft." And please, what about the voters over 164 years old. Are you alleging they are non-citizens? Do you have any evidence for that? Or is it just possible that their birthdates were errantly entered into the computer base and not part of some scheme to steal elections from someone? You say you do the research but you don't actually seem to post your evidence. Here is mine to completely refute your suggestion 850 voters in NYC are officially 164 years old | New York Post by the way the NY post is also a very GOP publication owned by the same person who owns Fox Network. Nothing wrong with him owning as much as he wants. I only mention this to show that the Post is not some left wing lib rag sheet. If you personally know people who voted illegally I strongly suggest you need to notify the authorities in Nevada who will be more than happy to investigate your allegations and prosecute. Here is the email address for the Nevada attorney general. aginfo@ag.nv.gov |
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#73
10-26-2014, 04:15 PM
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Our voting procedure has been compromised. The right to vote should NOT be linked to one getting a drivers license. One should need to go to an office of the Registrar of Voters, show a valid proof of citizenship, perhaps even be fingerprinted. If the fingerprint is not on a list of illegals or felons, you are accepted. Then and only then is your voter ID would be mailed to you.
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10-26-2014, 04:26 PM
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GAO included in their report 8 U.S. district courts. Those 8 U.S. district courts reported to GAO the percentage of individuals called for jury duty who avoided jury duty by claiming that they were not U.S. citizens. This is what GAO reported: "Of the eight district courts, four federal jury administrators said no one had been disqualified from jury service because they were not U.S. citizens. In the other four district courts: •a federal jury administrator in one U.S. district court estimated that 1 to 3 percent of the people out of a jury pool of 30,000 over 2 years (about 300 to 900 people) said they were not U.S. citizens; •a federal jury administrator in a second U.S. district court estimated that less than 1 percent of the people out of a jury pool of 35,000 names each month (less than 350 people) said they were not U.S. citizens; •a federal jury administrator in a third U.S. district court estimated that about 150 people out of a jury pool of 95,000 names over 2 years said they were not U.S. citizens; and •a federal jury administrator in a fourth U.S. district court estimated that annually about 5 people typically claimed non-citizenship in a jury pool of about 50,000 individuals". Source:http://www.gao.gov/assets/250/246628.pdf It makes me wonder how many of these people who were registered to vote but claimed to be non-citizens when called for jury duty, were actually citizens who lied to avoid jury duty. In summary, the estimated percentage of registered voters who claimed to be non-citizens when called for jury duty and subsequently disqualified from jury duty were as follows: 4 district courts reported 0 percent 1 reported somewhere between 1 and 3 percent 1 reported less than 1 percent 1 reported 150/95,000, which is 0.15 percent 1 reported about 5 in 50,000, which is 0.01 percent. To use 3 percent as an estimated of non-citizens on voting records, does not seem appropriate to me. |
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10-26-2014, 04:30 PM
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That is exactly how registering to vote works in Florida, except for the fingerprinting. Having a driver's license has nothing to do with voting, except that you can use your driver's license for identification, or you can use a Florida ID card or the last four digits of your social security number. |
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