[Villagesperson]

I am very confused.

Are those who are pointing out, for some reason, there is insufficient voting irregularities to cause concern....are they saying that, in their opinion, it is just fine for someone who is not a citizen of the USA vote in elections held in the USA ? That seemed to be the original question asked and commented on.

[Villageswimmer]

We just voted. All we showed were our new FL drivers licenses that we got last week.

When we applied for the drivers licenses, all they asked for was 2 docs that show our names, address, and social security numbers. No birth certs, no marriage record. No passports. They kept our old drivers licenses. Oh, also proof of auto insurance.

[JB in TV]

Originally Posted by naneiben

We just voted. All we showed were our new FL drivers licenses that we got last week.

When we applied for the drivers licenses, all they asked for was 2 docs that show our names, address, and social security numbers. No birth certs, no marriage record. No passports. They kept our old drivers licenses. Oh, also proof of auto insurance.

you got your FL driver's licenses LAST WEEK? when did you register to vote in FL? or did you?

[Average Guy]

Originally Posted by naneiben

We just voted. All we showed were our new FL drivers licenses that we got last week.

When we applied for the drivers licenses, all they asked for was 2 docs that show our names, address, and social security numbers. No birth certs, no marriage record. No passports. They kept our old drivers licenses. Oh, also proof of auto insurance.

The deadline to register to vote in the Florida General Election was Oct. 6th, 29 days before the election. Something is not adding up if you got your drivers licenses last week and used them as identification to vote.

[Steve & Deanna]

I remember when we used to have to pay a poll tax to vote but I believe in voter ID's that could probably be affixed to state driver's licenses. The city of Burlington VT is looking into letting non-US citizens to vote as it is said that 'they pay taxes'. Well, I'm sure they do pay taxes.....sales taxes....because most of them are on public assistance.
Our rights are quickly eroding.

[billethkid]

the paying of taxes by non citizens DOES NOT allow entitlement to vote.

Paying the taxes allows them to live here, use the infrstructure here and pay the bills for community and state amenities.

If they want to vote, then let them become a US citizen.

Voting is a cheirshed priviledge that comes with being a US citizen. Let's not allow todays tide of loose law interpretation and non enforcement tarnish the process.

[dplars]

Yes, we are on a slippery slope. I don't see an end to it especially when one segment of our society thinks its ok to lie and cheat.

Woman Convicted of Voter Fraud Honored by Ohio Democrats

[Average Guy]

Originally Posted by dplars

Yes, we are on a slippery slope. I don't see an end to it especially when one segment of our society thinks its ok to lie and cheat.

Woman Convicted of Voter Fraud Honored by Ohio Democrats

Here is another article on the subject with the headline "Both parties jeer embrace of fraudulent voter." Al Sharpton hardly represents the majority of the Democrats.

Both parties jeer embrace of fraudulent voter

[Villageswimmer]

Originally Posted by JB in TV

you got your FL driver's licenses LAST WEEK? when did you register to vote in FL? or did you?

Sorry I was unclear. We got our drivers licenses, car reg, and voter's registration...all at the same time. One stop shopping in Sumter County. (Very efficient, btw).

[VT2TV]

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328

Nothing at all wrong with allowing non-citizens to vote in local elections. The non-citizens (not illegals) are residents and deserve a say in their local issues. Do not confuse non-citizens with illegals.

I cannot believe that anyone who is an US citizen would have that opinon. Our ancestors fought and died to give our CITIZENS the right to vote, and live in a democracy. The people who are not citizens could very easily sway the elections to the detriment of this country by not being able to understand the issues or concerns of the citizens. That does not mean that all citizens who vote understand all the issues, but they have a legal right to vote. There are millions of Mexicans who want nothing more to take "back" the US and are willing to do what they can to ensure that. With that attitude, and the fact that American citizens, either born here or legal, are quickly becoming the minority, I am afraid that anyone who has children or grandchildren, should be very concerned about the life they will have. I think it is absolutely CRIMINAL to allow criminals to vote. When you break the horrific laws that would be enough to send you to prision, you lose the right to vote. I have also heard and read that all of this is true on the network news shows-not any of the cable news-not to say that it hasn't been on those either. Our country and its government is quickly being given to anyone and everyone other than the actual American citizens. It breaks my heart to see our country stray so far from principals, morals, and the right thing to do. I just hope it is not too late for the remaining wonderful people of this country to take it back.

[Sandtrap328]

Regarding the government issued ID required for voting:

Do you agree that US citizens should be able to receive ID cards (not driver licenses) at no cost?

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328

Regarding the government issued ID required for voting:

Do you agree that US citizens should be able to receive ID cards (not driver licenses) at no cost?

You see, that's the issue .... give people stuff for free and they expect more stuff. An ID card doesn't cost much except time. If someone is too lazy or too indifferent to get an ID, that's their problem ... not mine nor societys'

[blueash]

Originally Posted by VT2TV

There are millions of Mexicans who want nothing more to take "back" the US and are willing to do what they can to ensure that. With that attitude, and the fact that American citizens, either born here or legal, are quickly becoming the minority.

I believe there are lots of Southerners still fighting the Civil War and still wanting to secede from the gubmint in Washington, but I have apparently been sadly uninformed about the millions of Mexicans who wish to refight the Mexican-American war. I had not been aware that American citizens are becoming the minority of Americans. I do know that white Americans are becoming a minority. But maybe white people is the group you mean when you talk about "the remaining wonderful people".

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by blueash

I believe there are lots of Southerners still fighting the Civil War and still wanting to secede from the gubmint in Washington, (HUH?) but I have apparently been sadly uninformed about the millions of Mexicans who wish to refight the Mexican-American war. I had not been aware that American citizens are becoming the minority of Americans. I do know that white Americans are becoming a minority. But maybe white people is the group you mean when you talk about "the remaining wonderful people".

Blueash. Do you think that people who are not U.S. Citizens should be allowed to vote?

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by blueash

I believe there are lots of Southerners still fighting the Civil War and still wanting to secede from the gubmint in Washington, but I have apparently been sadly uninformed about the millions of Mexicans who wish to refight the Mexican-American war. I had not been aware that American citizens are becoming the minority of Americans. I do know that white Americans are becoming a minority. But maybe white people is the group you mean when you talk about "the remaining wonderful people".

I get the impression at times that you seem to feel European-American "white people" (as you put it) and their culture/morays/civilization etc are the problem. Is that an accurate impression or erroneous on my part?