[rp001]

I do not agree with the decision to Strategically hit Syria. That being said I believe our president, Obama, is privy to info not made public. Just because we don't know all the facts doesn't mean there is not necessity. For the first time in many yrs, this do nothing congress has actually come together in a semi bi partisan manner to agree on something, anything. And contrary with many folks on this thread, during the last eclipse President Obama was not trying to steal the moon.

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by rp001

I do not agree with the decision to Strategically hit Syria. That being said I believe our president, Obama, is privy to info not made public. Just because we don't know all the facts doesn't mean there is not necessity. For the first time in many yrs, this do nothing congress has actually come together in a semi bi partisan manner to agree on something, anything. And contrary with many folks on this thread, during the last eclipse President Obama was not trying to steal the moon.

Well said. I also do not think a strike is the answer but as you say, we do not know what the President knows nor should we. America has dune this in the past without a smoking gun so I am happy we are going slowly on this one. The entire world knows we are the biggest guy in the ring and I disagree with comments that we must go after a country that could not beat up North Dakota just to flex our muscles.

Until it is sanctioned by the UN or at the very least other world leaders publicly asking for action.

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by rp001

Sadly I believe this subject matter has become nothing more than an open opportunity for some folks to bash the president. It's time for support and to at least attempt to pose a united front. The debate is over. Time to pray.

I think he has too much support on this action. I see bipartisan agreement and bipartisan disagreement and for the first time in years. For that reason, I will support the president if and when there is more agreement from more world powers. Also, is it not a result of all the praying that has the Middle East in such turmoil?

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by rp001

I do not agree with the decision to Strategically hit Syria. That being said I believe our president, Obama, is privy to info not made public. Just because we don't know all the facts doesn't mean there is not necessity. For the first time in many yrs, this do nothing congress has actually come together in a semi bi partisan manner to agree on something, anything. And contrary with many folks on this thread, during the last eclipse President Obama was not trying to steal the moon.

You are correct that we do not know what he knows.

This congress, if you had not noticed, is NOT pulling together. I was for backing the president, but have changed as many in congress.

One more thing..we do not know things he knows for sure, but we also do not know even his strategies, his policies. He does not speak to us.

Your words have a very familiar ring to them.

Again, your personal and political love for the president is getting in the way of bombing people with no strategy, of assisting very very bad people to become more powerful, and you are ignoring the confused stance he is presenting to the world

I would have more to say about your comments on a do nothing congress, but it would get political..suffice to say, you cannot do anything if not consulted.

I might add that this thread better represents what this country thinks right now

[Golfingnut]

I often support the president, because he is the president. This issue is one that I feel he is wrong and is too dangerous to give my support.

I am yet to be convinced that Syria opposition forces would improve upon their current dictator nor on the security of the US.

Let me add.... I am very happy to see this thread has not been partisan.

[gomoho]

I have been on the fence with this - torn between my emotional heartache for those being sacrificed and is it any of our business. I am now settled with my belief that there are too many unknowns in this situation for us to get involved without the support of the rest of the world. This is not our battle - if anyone needs to be punished for using chemical weapons it should be done by the world community not the US.

As far as our credibility - it's already shot. The minute the President drew that red line (which he did draw - not the world community that he claims) and didn't cross it when he had the proof he was waiting for it showed weakness. Today I am glad he waited because as more information comes out we really don't know who is fighting who in Syria. Our credibility has degraded since he has been in office with no clear foreign policy and this could be seen as the straw that breaks the camels back. Had he not drawn the red line to begin with (hindsight is 20/20) this would probably be a different ball game right now.

I pray for the safety of our county and the restoration of respectability to the office of The President of the United States.

[billethkid]

in the face of the congress leaning away from support, the American people overwhelmingly do not support, the UN does not support and the International community at large does not support, just what rationale can Obama contrive to go it alone?

The politics would suggest do not attack Syria. So the only reason he would in light of the above? Personal?......for what?

btk

[gomoho]

Just moments ago at his press conference the President said he has a good feeling what the American people want - so I guess that means no war???

[ilovetv]

Originally Posted by billethkid

in the face of the congress leaning away from support, the American people overwhelmingly do not support, the UN does not support and the International community at large does not support, just what rationale can Obama contrive to go it alone?

The politics would suggest do not attack Syria. So the only reason he would in light of the above? Personal?......for what?

btk

Q: For what?

A: Diversion.

We haven't heard a word in the U.S. media about the bloodbath and chaos in Egypt since this Syrian mess rose to the top of the headlines. Egypt cannot have suddenly become a sanctuary of peace and tranquility. News of our involvement there was coming out as bungled and flip floppy. Same thing with what we were really doing in Benghazi. This decision by us on attacking Syria is a chance to look decisive and transparent.

[mrsanborn]

Remember the 1980-1988 Iraq Iran war? Do the research about how the US gave the ingredients for chemical and bio WMD to Iraq and helped to target Iranian forces. When Saddam Insane used them on the Kurds, we did nothing. Yes, you can say that happened 30 plus years ago and America is now morally stronger. LOL. With 100K already dead in Syria, we now feel we need to launch a strike because 1400 people were killed by a gas attack?
While we always point out that Russia and China put the kabash on every humane thing we want to do, notice their defense spending against their GDP.
We need to fix America before we try to fix a world that does not want to be fixed. Especially by us.
Peru is more of a threat to our security with it's counterfeiting than Syria. Are we going to "put one across Peru's bow"?

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

Q: For what?

A: Diversion.

We haven't heard a word in the U.S. media about the bloodbath and chaos in Egypt since this Syrian mess rose to the top of the headlines. Egypt cannot have suddenly become a sanctuary of peace and tranquility. News of our involvement there was coming out as bungled and flip floppy. Same thing with what we were really doing in Benghazi. This decision by us on attacking Syria is a chance to look decisive and transparent.

I sincerely hope you are wrong.

A lot pointing to the political games here, but I am going to ignore that for the time being. My problem now is that the President is making it worse, in my opinion. He now talks as if he was always coming to congress and everybody including his shocked staff knows that is not so. He talks as if the "red line" is not his...he did not do that. If they do not pass and he starts to blame congress for inaction, and if they do pass, and it backfires and he blames congress....deal is sealed then.

BUT....and those who have been on here for awhile know this hurts...but for now I will give him the benefit of the doubt on this.

[ilovetv]

Originally Posted by Bucco

I sincerely hope you are wrong.

A lot pointing to the political games here, but I am going to ignore that for the time being. My problem now is that the President is making it worse, in my opinion. He now talks as if he was always coming to congress and everybody including his shocked staff knows that is not so. He talks as if the "red line" is not his...he did not do that. If they do not pass and he starts to blame congress for inaction, and if they do pass, and it backfires and he blames congress....deal is sealed then.

BUT....and those who have been on here for awhile know this hurts...but for now I will give him the benefit of the doubt on this.

I hope I'm wrong, for the sake of our troops and families, all of us, and the President and his family. Iran is more insane than usual today in the headlines (See Drudge). It's horrific and I don't want to even think about it.

God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is our only hope and he's waiting for our prayers.

[justjim]

It didn't take the British this long to make up their minds. Why is it so hard to get a vote up or down on any issue in our Congress? To answer my own question---because they (career Politicans) are always running a re-election campaign. Oh, for term limits!

[shcisamax]

I believe there is overwhelming response by constituent calls to their senators and congressmen..like 100 to one AGAINST going to war from what I heard from my senator up north.
After thinking about this quite a bit, even though my heart absolutely breaks for the innocents, and let's face it, it is the innocents who are affected by those few in power, until America stops being the international police, the rest of the world will not put themselves on the line. They just wait for the USA to jump in and let the USA take the heat. Time to back off, take care of our problems at home with our own, and let the rest of the world adjust to a new role in international citizenship. I assume initially some will see it as a victory and that the US is now weak, but on the flip side, our "allies" will recognize we aren't going to be the default anymore and they are going to have to pony up going forward.

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by shcisamax

I believe there is overwhelming response by constituent calls to their senators and congressmen..like 100 to one AGAINST going to war from what I heard from my senator up north.
After thinking about this quite a bit, even though my heart absolutely breaks for the innocents, and let's face it, it is the innocents who are affected by those few in power, until America stops being the international police, the rest of the world will not put themselves on the line. They just wait for the USA to jump in and let the USA take the heat. Time to back off, take care of our problems at home with our own, and let the rest of the world adjust to a new role in international citizenship. I assume initially some will see it as a victory and that the US is now weak, but on the flip side, our "allies" will recognize we aren't going to be the default anymore and they are going to have to pony up going forward.

I very much agree. Everybody knows we have the power, now it is time to let someone else take the reigns.