[LndLocked]

Originally Posted by wendyquat

No really, it is "cool"! Just a tool for teaching folks to be responsible gun owners. It's horrifying to think that some people own guns with no clue how to use them! We need more "cool gun clubs"! Don't knock it if you have no idea what you are talking about!

IMO ... their is absolutely nothing "cool" about guns, nor a club dedicated to them.

[KeepingItReal]

Originally Posted by AJ32162

Drunks use automobiles, not whiskey bottles to kill people, and they do it EVERY day.

Agree and here is proof of it which matches the death toll in CT plus many injured in a single accident, yet the drinking and driving continues everyday.
This single accident resulted in the death of 27 people and injured 34 of 67 passengers. The Carrollton KY crash remains the second worst bus crash in U.S. history.*
This drunk driver was going north in the southbound lanes of I-71. Only thing that really changed after a lot of discussion was buses were redesigned and mostly converted to diesel and a flashing light added on top.

Both guns and booze are totally out of control in this country.

Carrollton, Kentucky bus collision - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[LndLocked]

Originally Posted by AJ32162

And yet, the DUIs and alcohol related traffic deaths continue unabated.

I'll take that as a "maybe" on joining the gun club.

While the number is still sadly to high .. . the number of alcohol related traffic deaths as a percentage per capita has been declining since the late 90's. This is due to increased enforcement, and vehicle safety improvements, public awareness campaigns (all forms of regulations) and public sentiment which drove the increased regulations.

[gamby]

I talked to several Teachers that live in the CT area of that school in fact one was a intern teacher some time ago at Sandy Hook.
All wish they had a gun or at least an armed guard on site; They feel just maybe they could have prevented some deaths by taking out the intruder.
A strict background search and proper training would be mandatory.
I asked one if SHE would be able to jump in to defend and kill if needed and she said , "Without hesitation" Others said the same .
Two Schools there have already put armed guards on full time.

On another note, Black market guns are available now by the many thousands and will not go away with any gun restrictions. Think about that !

OH ! The teacher has retired

[villagerjack]

What is the appropriate response if someone attacks you with rocks?

[villagerjack]

Originally Posted by Challenger

Amend the Constitution(2nd amendment) ? Be careful what you wish for. There are always unintended consequences. Prohibition sounded like a good idea, at the time.

Probably was a good idea....just unenforceable...just like gun control.

[shcisamax]

Hmn. Next the bully shows up with the gun when the rocks don't work. Then all the rock throwers run away. Not literal...more destructive power, whatever that may be. Really this is an absurd exercise.

[billethkid]

if it it being presented that ONE amendment, the 2nd, be changed/updated/modifies/what ever to match what ever is being presented....then there is an error of major proportion and complete unacceptability. Why?

Because to single out one amendent, that some are prgudiced toward or against, simply suggests that all the rest of the constitution is correct, complete, accurate and needs no attention to "suit the times".

And why is it appropriate to also assume that the scrpture being quoted is the correct, accurate, "suitable for the times" document. That is substantially older than the constitution.

The problem of the "current times" and some folks outlook is the inability or refusal to accept enforcing the rules, laws, constitution in effect. The continual trek of special interest groups or lobbying to change what the majority of us have been and are willing to continue to respect are the rules and laws and practices in existence.

The 2nd amendment like global warming and immigration have become nothing more than a political, special interest group FOOTBALL.

How about forgetting the "intent" of our forefathers and just enforcing the law(s) of the land? They seem to have worked for a couple of centuries now....have they not?

btk

[BobnBev]

Originally Posted by Serenoa

I read this somewhere recently: When a child on a playground throws rocks at other children, do we give the other children handfulls of rocks to throw back?

think about it.

Nope, the teacher takes the rock thrower aside, and explains it's not nice
or allowed to throw rocks at the other students, and gives him/her a
timeout or whatever.

I guess you think that we should take a shooter aside, and explain that it's
not a nice thing to do, shooting at unarmed people. Is a timeout appropriate
now? Maybe a slap on the wrist and send the perpetrator to bed w/o supper?

[rubicon]

Aug 3, 2010 Man wielding a knife kills three children at a Shandong province kindergarten

Aug 29, 2011 staffer at a shanghai day care center wounds eight children with a knife.

Sept 14, 2011 a man in henan province kills six with an ax, including two young girls.

Dec 14 2012 knife-wielding man injurestwenty three childen outside a primary school in Henan province

Dec 24 accident involving van kills eleven children in Jiangxi province.
(WSJ 12/26/12)

What element needs control weapon, killer, cultural climate?

Suppose all three were addressed would it eliminate these events? If so for how long?

[rubicon]

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[PJOHNS2654]

Originally Posted by shcisamax

Hmn. Next the bully shows up with the gun when the rocks don't work. Then all the rock throwers run away. Not literal...more destructive power, whatever that may be. Really this is an absurd exercise.

We can have two or three Troopers at every Highway Construction Site. Why not one at each school.

[Cantwaittoarrive]

About 5 children a day die from abuse. Many of those at the hand of their own parents, yet parents are not regulated. You don't need a license, you don't need training, the government even encourages parents to have children with tax credits and deductions. This means every 4 days as many little kids die as were killed in the recent shooting. Where is the cry and uproar to have parental control? shouldn't we protect the children by restricting who can be a parent? does a life only count if it's taken by a gun? Lets license and put controls on who can be parent before we think about restricitng guns, we will save far more kids. National Child Abuse Statistics | Childhelp

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

An old friend of mine who was an ordained minister use to say that the Old Testament and the New were one in the same and that Jesus really didn't change anything of importance.

He would say that the Old Testament was the New Testament concealed and the New Testament was the old testament revealed. Jesus was basically saying that the people of that time had misinterpreted the Old Testament.

You might want to check your history to see what happened to many societies in the past when the government took away the rights of the people to own guns. We do have a problem in this country, but I don't see how taking guns away from law abiding citizens will help the problem.

[Vinny]

Do you mean like they did during WWII when we put all Japanese citizens in camps to stop a few from spying or when we defined water boarding as not a torture method after 9/11? How about we change the part that states all men are created equal so that we can eliminate those most likely to commit such atrocities. You can prevent more deaths over all age groups by eliminating alcohol. I find it hypocritical that most will not give up their drinks but want to take away other's firearms. My owning a gun has no more to so with what happened than your having a drink does with all the deaths caused by DUI. A better argument can be made for owning a gun for defense than having a drink.

You see the problem is that once you start down the slippery slope you suggest is that sooner or later they will come for what you like.