[Bay Kid]

Originally Posted by Villager Joyce

The Golden Rule comes to mind.

This says it all.

[Steve9930]

PC and being courteous and respectfull are not one in the same. The architects of PC would have you believe they are one and the same. PC is surpression of speach. PC is about controlling your tboughts and ideas to make them conform to someone's standards who be!ieves your ideas are incorrect and their ideas are far superior to yours. PC is the first step in the destruction of a free society. Its a tool used control the masses. So when you see people promte this it has nothing to do with common courtesy and being polite.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Steve9930

PC and being courteous and respectfull are not one in the same. The architects of PC would have you believe they are one and the same. PC is surpression of speach. PC is about controlling your tboughts and ideas to make them conform to someone's standards who be!ieves your ideas are incorrect and their ideas are far superior to yours. PC is the first step in the destruction of a free society. Its a tool used control the masses. So when you see people promte this it has nothing to do with common courtesy and being polite.

Yep

I have a daughter living in Seattle and she is afraid to speak in the liberal city.

[redwitch]

I totally agree that PC can be taken too far and be totally ridiculous. However, does being opposed to being PC really give someone the right to say things that they know are hurtful to another? Yes, we have the right to open our mouths and let vitriol spew but I do believe there should be a line and that line is being hurtful, deliberately rude or downright cruel. How do you justify to yourself and others deliberately hurting another simply because a word or phrase is innocuous to you but knowing it causes pain to another?

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by redwitch

I totally agree that PC can be taken too far and be totally ridiculous. However, does being opposed to being PC really give someone the right to say things that they know are hurtful to another? Yes, we have the right to open our mouths and let vitriol spew but I do believe there should be a line and that line is being hurtful, deliberately rude or downright cruel. How do you justify to yourself and others deliberately hurting another simply because a word or phrase is innocuous to you but knowing it causes pain to another?

Free speach comes with risk. It comes with the risk of being offended. It also comes with the ability to ignore it. Just who will draw the line that can't be crossed? When it comes to safety of others its easy. You cannot shout "fire" in a crowded theator. When it comes to feelings its impossible to draw a line. PC is dangerous. Pepole died because others were afraid to speak. PC is intended to control not regulate civility. There is a book thousands of years old that regulates civility, the bible. There is no human today that can come up with any better rules.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Steve9930

PC and being courteous and respectfull are not one in the same. The architects of PC would have you believe they are one and the same. PC is surpression of speach. PC is about controlling your tboughts and ideas to make them conform to someone's standards who be!ieves your ideas are incorrect and their ideas are far superior to yours. PC is the first step in the destruction of a free society. Its a tool used control the masses. So when you see people promte this it has nothing to do with common courtesy and being polite.

Well stated!

[Bonny]

PC can get out of hand. I try to be somewhat sensitive, but people can get so carried away with it. Let's rename the the Washington Redskins, let's stop the Seminoles from doing the signature chop.
How far do we take it ?
Of course, I do like being a domestic engineer. Makes me sound way more important. LOL

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by Bonny

PC can get out of hand. I try to be somewhat sensitive, but people can get so carried away with it. Let's rename the the Washington Redskins, let's stop the Seminoles from doing the signature chop.

How far do we take it ?

Of course, I do like being a domestic engineer. Makes me sound way more important. LOL

Wow, Bonny. A domestic engineer AND a domestic goddess! [emoji41]


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[Madelaine Amee]

Originally Posted by Bonny

PC can get out of hand. I try to be somewhat sensitive, but people can get so carried away with it. Let's rename the the Washington Redskins, let's stop the Seminoles from doing the signature chop.
How far do we take it ?
Of course, I do like being a domestic engineer. Makes me sound way more important. LOL

We were watching European Rugby this past weekend. I was away from the TV and heard this singing American Indian chant, when I looked at the TV one of the teams was called "Chiefs" and the spectators were happily wearing headdresses and singing a chant and NOBODY was in the least bit bothered. We both remarked that it would never have been allowed in the U.S.

It's gone too far and is now in the stupid zone.

[Sandtrap328]

Originally Posted by Steve9930

PC and being courteous and respectfull are not one in the same. The architects of PC would have you believe they are one and the same. PC is surpression of speach. PC is about controlling your tboughts and ideas to make them conform to someone's standards who be!ieves your ideas are incorrect and their ideas are far superior to yours. PC is the first step in the destruction of a free society. Its a tool used control the masses. So when you see people promte this it has nothing to do with common courtesy and being polite.

WRONG!

If, however, you believe what you said is correct, give some examples of political correctness speech is the first step in destroying a free society.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328

WRONG!

If, however, you believe what you said is correct, give some examples of political correctness speech is the first step in destroying a free society.

I will try. Anytime free communication is directed or squelched than free speech suffers.

Political Correctness, when we are directed by a group thinking THEY are more sensitive and caring than the rest of us, to use or not use certain words, doesn't change anyone's morality or attitude or the reality of the situation. . It doesn't make anyone MORE respected. It doesn't make an unusual situation or circumstance or person more understood or repected on accepted. It is "Kewl" for the young and aggravating as hell for the old.

Only a kind heart can really be the answer and in the face of that not working, a really good sense of humor, that sees that we are all part of a society that looks stupid occasionally. We cannot laugh at others unless we can laugh at ourselves.

This goes back to the picture of the pitiful man (IN HANDCUFFS) sitting with his pants around his ankles in a public place. It could be you or it could be me. I would expect that if it were me, that someone would find it a tad bit humorous.

That is the reason I stopped drinking.

[Barefoot]

Like Villager Joyce, I believe in following the Golden Rule. But sadly, sometimes I'm a work in progress.
Redwitch, thanks for starting an interesting Thread.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328

WRONG!

If, however, you believe what you said is correct, give some examples of political correctness speech is the first step in destroying a free society.

[redwitch]

To me, being PC is not a group or person acting nor thinking they are morally superior, it is pointing out how hurtful and wrong some words are. That's why the N and K words are no longer socially acceptable. It took folks standing up and saying those words were wrong and would not be be said in their presence or in their homes. It took courage and fortitude. Today, PC has gone too far and can be absolutely ridiculous. So, I know longer go by what is considered PC. Instead, I stand by my rule that if a word or phrase will hurt another, I don't use it around that person. Doesn't mean I won't utter that word away from them, just not around them.

For example, I have a potty mouth, to put it mildly. I have some friends who never curse, damn being about as strong their language gets. I do my very best to not curse around them. If I slip, I immediately apologize. Psychology was my major. Retarded was and is a clinical term referring to individuals with an extremely low IQ, ditto moron. Today, retarded has become mentally challenged. To me, mentally challenged is a total misnomer. It says nothing about the degree of retardation. Regardless, I do my best to not say retarded or moron when describing a person. I'll stick with mentally challenged unless I am speaking in a clinical sense, usually with a medical or psychiatric professional.

So, maybe we shouldn't worry so much whether something is PC. Maybe we should just try basic kindness, understanding and thoughtfulness. The hel...heck with the PC police. Seems like that would take care of most issues.

[Aw Man]

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328

What are some of the principles of political correctness you are speaking about in your first sentence?

As for your second sentence, I hope you do not call other races, ethnicities, gendered identified, etc by names not "PC".

We have to have and to use common courtesy in speaking of and about others.

Good post. I agree with you.