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Old 03-29-2020, 06:28 AM
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the cat is out of the bag on this covid-19...it's for real

we're adults, we all know what we should be doing/not doing....we have free will.

Don't be too anxious to see if that cremation plan you bought covers everything
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Old 03-29-2020, 07:52 AM
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Targeting American citizens just because they came from New York (or New Jersey, Connecticut, Louisiana or wherever) is a blatant violation of the Fourth Amendment. And I suggest the reason so many forum members support it is because they aren't subject to it. How about if Florida started to do what China did. Go door-to-door and take people's temperatures. And if you have an elevated temperature from a cold or other minor illness, be forcibly taken from your home and quarantined. Use the same arguments in this topic to justify or refute.

There is a law on the books from the Spanish flu pandemic of about a hundred years ago that empowers the CDC to quarantine areas to prevent disease spread. Read it here:

Legal Authorities for Isolation and Quarantine
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The governor could declare martial law but probably will not. It would amount to political suicide.
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Old 03-29-2020, 07:56 AM
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I agree, did anyone think maybe these people are not infected and want to leave before they are infected.
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Old 03-29-2020, 07:58 AM
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I agree, did anyone think maybe these people are not infected and want to leave before they are infected.
How in the world would the people you refer to even know that? They would need to be tested.

They are fleeing because they don't want to be infected, they're hoping (not knowing) they're not infected etc. But the stat I saw two days ago indicated that 25% of NYC people tested positive.
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Old 03-29-2020, 09:11 AM
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Unenforceable, but a good thought.
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Old 03-29-2020, 10:02 AM
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Nice cavalier attitude. I rest my case.

Steve
The only opinion on this subject that matters to me is mine.
Bravo to their governor and any other governor protecting their people.

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Old 03-29-2020, 10:49 AM
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How in the world would the people you refer to even know that? They would need to be tested.

They are fleeing because they don't want to be infected, they're hoping (not knowing) they're not infected etc. But the stat I saw two days ago indicated that 25% of NYC people tested positive.
Total cases of Covid-19 in all of USA is about 125,000 total population of NYC is 8,500,000 approximately. So if every Covid case was in NYC it would be around 1.5%.

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‘Thousands of new COVID-19 infections are now being reported in New York every day. As of Saturday afternoon, there have been at least 52,318 confirmed cases of the coronavirus discovered in the state, including nearly 30,000 in New York City. At least 728 people with COVID-19 have died in the state, which has the largest number — around 46 percent — of confirmed cases in the U.S.’ Intelligencer

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Old 03-29-2020, 10:57 AM
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Total cases of Covid-19 in all of USA is about 125,000 total population of NYC is 8,500,000 approximately. So if every Covid case was in NYC it would be around 1.5%.
Yes, but that assumes equal geographic distribution of the refugees. The NY / FL axis has been around for a long time.

I don't have the source at hand but I the stat I recall said about 25% of NYers who tested showed up positive. Figures for other locations were like 5-10%

In any event, best for everyone for people to just stay put instead of moving around and increasing the risk of spread. Just my opinion.
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Old 03-29-2020, 11:14 AM
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Yes, I agree. No way should anyone be coming to Florida right now. Just don’t want to scare the NYC people who are also reading TOTV.
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Old 03-29-2020, 11:37 AM
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I have to laugh. Today's Daily S-- has several pictures of family visits in March. Don't they get it.
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Old 03-29-2020, 11:47 AM
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Again, can't fix stupid--the Daily Sun has got to promote LaLa Land no matter what-- the same for pictures of unrestrained toddlers in golf carts
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“While the Governor may have the power to suspend some state laws and regulations to address this medical emergency, she cannot suspend the Constitution,” Rhode Island ACLU executive director Steven Brown said in a statement. “Under the Fourth Amendment, having a New York state license plate simply does not, and cannot, constitute ‘probable cause’ to allow police to stop a car and interrogate the driver, no matter how laudable the goal of the stop may be.”

I agree. What's next.......door to door knocks, break-ins and searches? Sorry but this does not sit well with me and is a very slippery slope. Where does, will, it stop?

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Maybe it will be OK with you when and if 10 or more cars with NY plates start arriving in your neighborhood??
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Old 03-29-2020, 12:57 PM
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Maybe it will be OK with you when and if 10 or more cars with NY plates start arriving in your neighborhood??
It wouldn't bother me to where I would want to hang em high. Besides most New Yorkers that are here have Florida plates anyway, so how would you know?
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Old 03-29-2020, 01:09 PM
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It wouldn't bother me to where I would want to hang em high. Besides most New Yorkers that are here have Florida plates anyway, so how would you know?
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Not true. I lived full time in Florida with New York plates for two years
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Old 03-29-2020, 01:09 PM
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I agree with you.
We don't need the National Guard coming onto our houses and telling us what to do.
Well somebody should because evidently many of "us" can't figure it out. They give you a chance to be responsible and when you don't they need to escalate somehow.
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