[SoCalGal]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

We must have it or we could not send it.

Au contraire. We borrowed it, which is not the same as having it.

[SoCalGal]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

So, yes, [Elon Musk] was an unauthorized immigrant for a period of time.

I thank God every day that Elon Musk is now a productive, forward-thinking, and influential American citizen. America is blessed to have such a genius living among us.

[SoCalGal]

I see you’re not impressed nor a fan of success and legal immigration.

It comes down to coveting. Coveting is destructive to individuals and entire societies. Wanting what someone else has or resenting what someone else has is so debilitating to an individual's soul and the soul of countries that God made "Do not covet" one of His ten commandments (the 10th) for successful living.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by TheWarriors

We will see how humane it is when chaos is the norm in our Country when inflation hits 1000% and people do what they have to in order not to starve. We are not immune to self destruction and I don’t see any other Countries that will seek to save us.

I would add that it is not humane to borrow money to give to others, and force future generations to pay back the loan.

[GoldenBoy]

Originally Posted by Cliff Fr

I was looking at the SSA statement today of my cola increase and my total deductions and benefit amount. I noticed a line item titled "income tax deduction for non-citzens". I was unaware that non-citizens were eligible for social security retirement benefits. Am I mistaken?

Maybe, you would be further ahead in your quest for information by directing this question to the SSA.
Just a thought.

[REO7990]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Does it list any of the add on benefits like SSI, disability, welfare any many more that may suck money out of SS? Which was originally a retirement fund only?

SSA includes the following three Federal programs: Supplemental Security Income (SSI) is for those who do not have the necessary 40 work quarters to qualify for SS income under SSA. Those under retirement age can apply for SSI if disabled. It is NEED based where SSA benefits are WORK based. SSI enables the claimant to receive Medicaid benefits while those who qualify for SSA qualify for Medicare. Social Security Disability Income (SSDI) is earmarked for those who are disabled according to the Fed. Again, receiving SSDI benefits is work and not need based. As stated above, those disabled without the necessary 40 work quarters can apply for SSI benefits.

Welfare is NOT a Federal program but locally funded.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by REO7990

SSA includes the following three Federal programs: Supplemental Security Income (SSI) is for those who do not have the necessary 40 work quarters to qualify for SS income under SSA. Those under retirement age can apply for SSI if disabled. It is NEED based where SSA benefits are WORK based. SSI enables the claimant to receive Medicaid benefits while those who qualify for SSA qualify for Medicare. Social Security Disability Income (SSDI) is earmarked for those who are disabled according to the Fed. Again, receiving SSDI benefits is work and not need based. As stated above, those disabled without the necessary 40 work quarters can apply for SSI benefits.

Welfare is NOT a Federal program but locally funded.

Regarding your last sentence, USA.GOV says:

"Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) is a federally funded, state-run program. Also known as welfare, TANF helps families financially after experiencing hardship."

It may be state-run, but it is Federally funded.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by CFrance

Our German daughter-in-law came over to the US a year and a half ago and married our son. (They've known each other for years.) She applied for and received her right-to-work letter, followed by her green card, after satisfying many requirements and providing proof of others. It took four months. She is employed full time at a pharmacy and pays into SS. Everything was done legally through an immigration attorney. She will renew it for a certain number of times, after which she will be allowed to stay for ten years. At the end of ten years they may have some decisions to make. Apparently US doesn't offer dual citzenship, so she would have to renounce her German citizenship. We're not exactly sure that will be the case.

Ten years is a fairly long time. Lots of things could change by then.

[Red Rose]

Originally Posted by Cliff Fr

I was looking at the SSA statement today of my cola increase and my total deductions and benefit amount. I noticed a line item titled "income tax deduction for non-citzens". I was unaware that non-citizens were eligible for social security retirement benefits. Am I mistaken?

This means that we are paying for illegals, right?

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by GoldenBoy

Maybe, you would be further ahead in your quest for information by directing this question to the SSA.
Just a thought.

That would deny all these experts the chance to display their intelligence.🫢

[juddfl]

We borrow money to send to other countries that ask for help.

[bsloan1960]

They are looking to add the element of conversation to obtain further information that will not be obtained from either a Google Search, or your brief answer- that for some reason you are insisting is the one and only answer needed.

Originally Posted by Bill14564

As already mentioned…

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by bsloan1960

They are looking to add the element of conversation to obtain further information that will not be obtained from either a Google Search, or your brief answer- that for some reason you are insisting is the one and only answer needed.

It was a yes or no question - I answered it with a yes. The additional information in my post and in post #4 provided support for that answer.

Rather than just criticizing my choice of words, do you have an answer to the OP's question that is different than those provided in posts 2, 4, and 6?

[Ladays1978@gmail.com]

Originally Posted by Cliff Fr

I was looking at the SSA statement today of my cola increase and my total deductions and benefit amount. I noticed a line item titled "income tax deduction for non-citzens". I was unaware that non-citizens were eligible for social security retirement benefits. Am I mistaken?

Why do you think some people are so upset with the amount of people coming into our country. This isn't enough for the people that have been paying into SS for our whole lives let alone the people that came here illegally.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Ladays1978@gmail.com

Why do you think some people are so upset with the amount of people coming into our country. This isn't enough for the people that have been paying into SS for our whole lives let alone the people that came here illegally.

People here illegally don't receive social security benefits. As I said up-thread: DACA recipients who pay INTO the social security system through payroll deductions, are NOT allowed to get any of it out. They are people whose parents came here illegally with their children. The children were allowed to remain as non-citizens, but could own businesses and buy houses and go to college and work for a living when they were old enough. They pay into the system, and can't benefit from it.

People who don't have social security numbers don't pay into the system, and can't get anything out of it.

People using someone else's social security number (usually people who have been smuggled in) will never collect on it - because the number is legitimate - but belongs to someone else and that someone else will be getting the social security check.

Anyone who gets an actual paycheck in a legitimate job, with very few exceptions (some government and railroad employees) - whether the employee is here legally or not - is paying into the social security system.