[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by DeanFL

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Tiger Woods update: Driving 82 mph before crash, unclear if conscious

How can "no signs of impairment" as stated by the officer on the scene and "unclear if unconscious" both be used to describe Tiger at the time of the accident? Seems like an oxymoron.

[DeanFL]

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Even though I respect Tiger for his immense talents and golf records - it certainly appears that he is getting 'preferential treatment', as a celebrity by the L.A. Sherrif's office. In that repect, I'm glad that their 'investigation' and 'conclusions' are being questioned.>>>

'Conclusions are misguided:' Tiger Woods crash investigation criticized by forensic experts
USA TODAY April 10, 2021

Evidence released this week from the investigation into why Tiger Woods crashed his car and nearly died in February continues to point to a simple cause that ties all the available clues together, forensic crash experts told USA TODAY Sports.

They believe the evidence is consistent with Woods being unconscious when he left his lane and then went on a straight path of pure danger for nearly 400 feet instead of staying with the road as it curved right. Woods didn’t hit the brakes during the recorded collision sequence, didn’t steer out of the emergency and didn’t remember driving.

But the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department instead gave other reasons for the crash this week and barely mentioned the possibility of Woods being unconscious.

“Their conclusions are misguided, and the investigation obviously wasn’t thorough,” said Jonathan Cherney, a former police detective who now works as a car crash reconstruction expert.
Cherney suspects that is because Woods is a celebrity and because there were no other people injured in the crash. He said responding officers were not “as critical of this case as they would have been if Tiger had slammed into an opposing vehicle coming the other direction with multiple passengers.”

Sheriff's Department authorities declared the case to be an accident from the start and noted the road of the crash was known for unsafe speeds and accidents. After missing or misjudging clues early on, Cherney said the investigators seemed to dig in their heels and not want to divert from that early narrative.

Cherney said the sheriff is giving this broad legal reason – unsafe speed – to “cover everything” and “call it a day” without looking closely at the driver and his activities behind the wheel prior to deviating from his lane. He and other forensic experts contacted by USA TODAY Sports were not involved in the crash investigation but studied the evidenceand data released by the sheriff’s department. They questioned various aspects of the investigation, including why the investigators didn’t look at Woods’ blood or his phone.
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[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

83 in a a 45. End of story.

Not the end of the story. Since Tiger doesn't remember driving it's entirely possible that he had some kind of medical event, passed out and his foot pushed down on the accelerator. That would also explain why there were only injuries to his right leg.

Eighty Three is only a fact. There is still the question of why he was going 83.

[DeanFL]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

Not the end of the story. Since Tiger doesn't remember driving it's entirely possible that he had some kind of medical event, passed out and his foot pushed down on the accelerator. That would also explain why there were only injuries to his right leg.

Eighty Three is only a fact. There is still the question of why he was going 83.

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Totally agree. The L.A. Sherrif's Dept attempted to get away with reporting "WHAT", but not touching on "WHY" or "HOW" - even tho there is probably much more evidence. And why no blood testing/impairment etc etc? And the L.A. SD immediately calling it an 'accident'. No ticket either.

Smells like a coverup due to celebrity status...just sayin'. As I said before I like Tiger a LOT, but enough already.
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[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by DeanFL

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Totally agree. The L.A. Sherrif's Dept attempted to get away with reporting "WHAT", but not touching on "WHY" or "HOW" - even tho there is probably much more evidence. And why no blood testing/impairment etc etc? And the L.A. SD immediately calling it an 'accident'. No ticket either.

Smells like a coverup due to celebrity status...just sayin'. As I said before I like Tiger a LOT, but enough already.
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One of the things that the sheriff said was that there is a privacy issue. We obviously don't know what that is and some people are going to assume that it's part of some kind of cover up.

I try to not assume anything.

I don't know exactly what happened and neither does anyone else on this forum. I'm not sure that Tiger or the LA sheriff knows either.

Tiger haters have already made up their minds and nothing, even if proof came out totally exonerating him came out, is going to change their minds?

Could he have just been being reckless and going 83 on purpose? Possibly, of course.

Could the sheriff be trying to cover up for him? Possibly, but what would the sheriff have to gain by doing that?

Could there be some other reason that this happened? Also possibly.

[Topspinmo]

If it would of been anybody else they would of got blood test, if cleared would of at least got speeding and careless driving ticket, now it blood had drugs or alcohol would of been DUI. He got special treatment cause no others was injured, in jurisdictions of the county where the elites influence local sheriff and police department. Standard law enforcement Procedure wasn’t followed.

[stan the man]

Over or under "125" times announcers mention "Teflon Woods" name

[retiredguy123]

Lots of speculation, but the fact that they didn't do a blood test tells me that there was preferential treatment and a cover up.

The press conference was hogwash.

[Gulfcoast]

It seems odd that a speeding driver would suddenly pass out behind the wheel like that. I wonder if he was overly tired and had simply dozed off. Perhaps the vehicle was going downhill and it gained momentum and speed then left the road at the turn. Since he was awake and responsive when the EMTs arrived it doesn't sound like he was drugged up or drunk. They said that it didn't seem like he was under the influence. I think he just dozed off at the wrong time but that's only a guess.

[DeanFL]

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Originally Posted by dr winston o boogie jr

one of the things that the sheriff said was that there is a privacy issue. We obviously don't know what that is and some people are going to assume that it's part of some kind of cover up.

What privacy issue?

I try to not assume anything.

We are not either - facts speak

i don't know exactly what happened and neither does anyone else on this forum. I'm not sure that tiger or the la sheriff knows either.

So the public should not question this?

Tiger haters have already made up their minds and nothing, even if proof came out totally exonerating him came out, is going to change their minds?

Not a tiger hater - will be an albatross for him

could he have just been being reckless and going 83 on purpose? Possibly, of course.

"I try to not assume anything." from you... an assumption.


Could the sheriff be trying to cover up for him? Possibly, but what would the sheriff have to gain by doing that?

I could think of ten reasons why...

Could there be some other reason that this happened? Also possibly.

Which is exactly why the public who support tiger would like the truth, to put it all to rest.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Joanne19335

God isn’t finished with Tiger yet. How he survived at all is miraculous. The doctors are saying that he will never play competitive golf at his current level ever again. I hope they are wrong. He scratched his way out of a scandal and humbled himself and he has had numerous surgeries to his back, so he changed his swing. I pray he works hard in rehab when the time comes. His legacy is already set in stone as one of the greatest golfers that ever stepped foot on a course. He may never win another major, but I hope he returns to the game he loves. I have learned that you never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have.

And neither is the devil!

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

I only know that the police report said his tests found nothing in the way of drugs or alcohol, and it was an accident.

You seem to be the one with the crystal ball..

Are eating crow now?

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Are eating crow now?

20-20 Hindsight is a wonderful thing!

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

20-20 Hindsight is a wonderful thing!

No hindsight, it was obvious.

[DeanFL]

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Originally Posted by Two Bills
20-20 Hindsight is a wonderful thing!

No hindsight, it was obvious.
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NOT hindsight TB. Seems to be so rampant these days - jumping to conclusions BEFORE facts are provided.

And in this case, apparently some important "facts" are still not being released.

This is why in a (typical) jury trial, the prosecution then the defendent provides case evidence... THEN the jury decides.
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