[dbussone]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

The best intelligence is through this outreach.

Tal - would you please explain your thought here in some more detail. I'm missing how you got to your point. Thanks.

[Justus]

Originally Posted by goodtimesintv

I am really tired of the vague term "Extremism" used instead of "terrorism" and "religious genocide".

Extremism exists in the mind, thoughts, views and speech, but not necessarily in acts of torture and butchery-killing.

For example, Westboro Baptist is definitely "extremist" in their views and speech and brainwashing of their congregants. But as far as I know, they do not kidnap, rape, behead, shoot, bomb, or crucify their targeted victims.

Islamic terrorists ARE committing these bloody atrocities, and they are committing genocide of Christians as well as Jews. But our government is afraid or too PC to actually SAY it.

A decidedly liberal columnist says it well, here:

Kirsten Powers: John Kerry should recognize Christian genocide

How much clearer can it be? Thanks for sharing Kirsten Powers' moment of enlightenment; she has more courage to speak out than many of our country's "leaders".

[kittygilchrist]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

"Words and spirit of Islam"? What does this mean? About Jihad - Islam Jihad and Terrorism

Your site is an Islamist site recruiting converts to Islam. With a sword for a logo...?
Try this for contrast...
You are being redirected...

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by dbussone

Tal - would you please explain your thought here in some more detail. I'm missing how you got to your point. Thanks.

https://www.cia.gov/library/center-f...ence_War_2.htm

Refugees would be one of the best sources of information for what is going on in areas coming under ISIS control. They should be treated with respect for what they have gone through and that includes trying to understand their religion whatever that may be.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by kittygilchrist

Your site is an Islamist site recruiting converts to Islam. With a sword for a logo...?
Try this for contrast...
You are being redirected...

You linked site is probably one of the things creating the problems with Muslims.

[Justus]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

"Words and spirit of Islam"? What does this mean? About Jihad - Islam Jihad and Terrorism

With due respect, this is written by a muslim propagandist. Read between the lines and see that the evil they are sworn to destroy is America, and every other westernized country they believe is their "home". Then look back in history 1400 years and see the civilizations destroyed for not "submitting".

Despite the current lapse in leadership, America is too strong to allow this to happen.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Justus

With due respect, this is written by a muslim propagandist. Read between the lines and see that the evil they are sworn to destroy is America, and every other westernized country they believe is their "home". Then look back in history 1400 years and see the civilizations destroyed for not "submitting".

Despite the current lapse in leadership, America is too strong to allow this to happen.

Is it? Jihad: A Misunderstood Concept from Islam - What Jihad is, and is not

About Jihad - Islam Jihad and Terrorism

You destroy organizations like ISIS, Al Qaeda, etc. but leave Islam to its 2 BILLION or so followers. Muslims and Islam: Key findings in the U.S. and around the world | Pew Research Center

[Finallyfree]

There is an organization in Orlando called The Islamic Center of Central Florida. They do presentations on what is and is not moderate Islamic beliefs. It can be very enlightening IF someone wants to learn. All Muslims pray 5 times a day and it does not have to be at a mosque. When in the Middle East we would see people pull off the highway to pray. The more knowledge we have the better to understand and deal with the extremists. Good luck in gaming real information and not just believing what our religious extremists say.

[Steve9930]

Just remember this as you listen to the talk: It is acceptable for a Muslim to Lie if it is beneficial to the spreading Islam. It is also in the teaches of Mohammed, to be cooperative and submissive until you have the ability to do otherwise. These statements make it very hard for me to believe that when I'm told Islam is a religion of peace that they are believable. Also ISIS is not waving a bible in their hand as they commit their atrocities.

[graciegirl]

Are you Muslim? Are women directed to pray five times a day? Am I correct that Muslim women aren't allowed to pray with men or use a mosque.

Are there different kinds of Muslims like different kinds of Christians; Baptists and Catholics, etc.?

Do all Muslims wear the lace caps and Burkas.

[Justus]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

You linked site is probably one of the things creating the problems with Muslims.

Why, because it tells the truth? Muslims don't need anything to create problems; they have come equipped with their own set. You sound as though your mind is made up, not to be confused with the facts.

As the investigation progresses, this "peaceful muslim family" is emerging as much more insidious than they originally purported to be. They now bear all the earmarks of a terrorist sleeper cell. Why are you defending the indefensible? And forgive me for iterating what RickeyD asked, 'Whose side are you on?'

By the way, UTube has some interesting films of muslim "refugees" on the German border, destroying food given by aid workers, because it wasn't halal. Their children were starving and thirsty, but they threw a truckload of perfectly good food and water under train tracks. Wonderful people.

[Shimpy]

Originally Posted by RickeyD

Link me a video showing a large group of Muslims demonstrating in public against the Caliphate, in this country or any other. Show me their disdain and indignation towards their fellow Muslims who have committed atrocities in the name of Allah. I'm waiting for your prompt reply.

Don't hold your breath......that would be one hell of a long wait.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Finallyfree

There is an organization in Orlando called The Islamic Center of Central Florida. They do presentations on what is and is not moderate Islamic beliefs. It can be very enlightening IF someone wants to learn. All Muslims pray 5 times a day and it does not have to be at a mosque. When in the Middle East we would see people pull off the highway to pray. The more knowledge we have the better to understand and deal with the extremists. Good luck in gaming real information and not just believing what our religious extremists say.

Thanks for posting this. I Minored in Religious Studies at the University of Nevada, Reno. Also got BAs in History and Philosophy. My Medieval History Professor talked often about Jihad and it was a very powerful force in the spread of Islam by conquerors who used religion to gain territories and riches. Some Muslims are using the same approach now and added committing all kinds of atrocities as well. These are people corrupting certain ideas found in the Muslim religion. It does have those ideas of struggle but that means something quite different to most Muslims than it does to those who use violence for whatever end.

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by jebartle

This has been a very respectful and thoughtful dialogue about a very serious world concern. A good example of TOTVers that contribute thoughts and facts to all of us....Thanks

I'm guessing you got a lot of posters blocked.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Justus

Why, because it tells the truth? Muslims don't need anything to create problems; they have come equipped with their own set. You sound as though your mind is made up, not to be confused with the facts.

As the investigation progresses, this "peaceful muslim family" is emerging as much more insidious than they originally purported to be. They now bear all the earmarks of a terrorist sleeper cell. Why are you defending the indefensible? And forgive me for iterating what RickeyD asked, 'Whose side are you on?'

By the way, UTube has some interesting films of muslim "refugees" on the German border, destroying food given by aid workers, because it wasn't halal. Their children were starving and thirsty, but they threw a truckload of perfectly good food and water under train tracks. Wonderful people.

No it does not tell the truth. It covers a very small part of what is happening on the world and slants it for all its worth.