[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Shimpy

Don't hold your breath......that would be one hell of a long wait.

I already posted that. The demonstrations in Italy.

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Are you Muslim? Are women directed to pray five times a day? Am I correct that Muslim women aren't allowed to pray with men or use a mosque.

Are there different kinds of Muslims like different kinds of Christians; Baptists and Catholics, etc.?

Do all Muslims wear the lace caps and Burkas.

Islam is a Male Dominated Society.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Steve9930

Islam is a Male Dominated Society.

It varies by country. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousafzai Malala Yousafzai is a Muslim and is doing wonderful things for educating women in Muslim countries.

Heads of State | Muslim Women | WISE Muslim Women

[graciegirl]

Then there is this;


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clitoridectomy

[tomwed]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjGL6YY6oMs

Here's a good but dated interview.

[Jimturner]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

The thread on the awful shooting in San Bernardino has been taken over as a debate on guns.


I am worried about the insidious threat by a group defined by a religion. Being critical of anyone because of their religion is a no no, and yet a woman in Kentucky who is very far right was highly criticized for not issuing marriage licenses to gay people. I don't agree with that but she was acting according to her extreme religious beliefs. This group of Islamic terrorists are very conservative and very devout. Who can argue that that usually is an alright thing. Those folks usually become pastors and priests and Rabbi's and nuns and teachers in Christian schools...nice things, or at least fairly understandable to most of us. But this is a different thing going on.


I don't know anyone who really knows well someone who is wearing a burka or a cap. I don't know anyone who is a scholar of the Koran. I think that Islamic people who dress like westerners aren't radicalized, BUT Syeed Farook dressed like a westerner in his job as a health inspector.


We could usually tell if a family member was heading toward the convent because they would go to daily Mass and not hit their brother as often. But Islamic MEN go to the Mosque three times a day. (The women aren't allowed to go to the Mosque to pray, just for the PTA and stuff like that or am I wrong?)


I am not worried about this for us in The Villages because we don't have a large Muslim community but we moved from a subdivision with a mosque and my children and friends still live there.


How can we know when an Islamic person is heading along the path to being devout? Their family isn't going to tell on them, because I think they must be kinda proud of that.


Please don't be angry at me. This is on my mind. Does anyone know more than I do on this subject? I know it is probably politically incorrect to discuss it.

After reading your comments and concerns, my opinion is that most people know more than you about Muslims. Most Muslims are moderate on Islamic teachings and much safer to our way of life than skin heads or racists that America is filled with. I would fear domestic terrorists more than Muslim refugees.

[goodtimesintv]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Then there is this;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clitoridectomy

This is a must-see, short interview last night with Ayaan Hirsi Ali who was raised Muslim in Somalia and was subjected to the heinous genital mutilation as a child.

She attempts to explain here why/how Westerners cannot understand how mothers and other relatives CAN go along with the atrocities their son and daughter-in-law might be committing. When they fully share in the ideology and believe in the end game (anihilation of all us "infidels") etc., it seems they don't see anything wrong with the means of achieving that "end game".

(If I understand her right, "the end justify the means, even if it means being a father and mother leaving forever their 6-month-old baby with Grandma who knows they are going to go and mass murder a bloodbath.) Her book "Heretic" is one of her many educated attempts to explain it.

Do not miss: (3 minutes)

Ayaan Hirsi Ali on growing skepticism of terrorists' family
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5HwVkuFdWg

[lanemb]

Just listen to the following link. Big brother supports and creates the mess we are living in.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/6PzT8vEvYPg

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by lanemb

Just listen to the following link. Big brother supports and creates the mess we are living in.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/6PzT8vEvYPg

I watched it. I tried to fact check it but couldn't find any red flags. I feel like Trump would be all over this. Am I missing something?

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

https://www.cia.gov/library/center-f...ence_War_2.htm



Refugees would be one of the best sources of information for what is going on in areas coming under ISIS control. They should be treated with respect for what they have gone through and that includes trying to understand their religion whatever that may be.

Understood. Thank you.

[Steve9930]

I know everyone is all over the Donald's case about his latest comments but according to US Law he is correct in what he is advocating.

Islam, by law, is prohibited from US immigration

I searched and found the sections that support the arguments.

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by tomwed

I watched it. I tried to fact check it but couldn't find any red flags. I feel like Trump would be all over this. Am I missing something?

The program she talks about is real. I have some one I know that is involved with the resettlement of refugees.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by lanemb

Just listen to the following link. Big brother supports and creates the mess we are living in.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/6PzT8vEvYPg

Very interesting. VERY.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Steve9930

I know everyone is all over the Donald's case about his latest comments but according to US Law he is correct in what he is advocating.

Islam, by law, is prohibited from US immigration

I searched and found the sections that support the arguments.

That would be a very hard sell in front of just about any judge in the US. Why? Because you would have to do this on a case-by-case basis showing that this specific Muslim was a terrorist wanting to overthrow the US. If that were true you could probably use the Patriot Act to prevent entry and/or lock this individual up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act,_Title_IV

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

That would be a very hard sell in front of just about any judge in the US. Why? Because you would have to do this on a case-by-case basis showing that this specific Muslim was a terrorist wanting to overthrow the US. If that were true you could probably use the Patriot Act to prevent entry and/or lock this individual up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act,_Title_IV

Just finished watching an interview on Hannity and the Security Chairman. He made a very interesting comment on this business about putting a pause on bringing the Syrian Refugees to the US. He said they did a pause exactly like what is being called for with the Iraqi refugees. He also indicated they have evidence now that ISIS is trying to infiltrate the refugees to get to the US.