[tomwed]

Originally Posted by Justus

Millions of decent people look to their religions for guidance and to provide a yardstick for decency and civility for future generations. That religions have been the focal point of violence at certain historical times is a fact that civilized societies have come to understand, and have evolved beyond.

There are many peaceful organized religions in this world, whose adherents do not crave the blood of nonbelievers. Savages are unable to progress beyond the dark ages their forbearers created. This is what threatens our world today...not organized religion. As far as atheists are concerned, atheism is an organized religion unto itself. If they do inherit this world, it will be because the savages have won.

However, many of the country's 46 million unaffiliated adults [33 percent of Americans are simply unaffiliated and 13 percent are atheist/agnostic] are religious or spiritual in some way. Two-thirds of them say they believe in God (68%).Oct 9, 2012
Pew: 20% of Americans Are Now Atheist, Agnostic or ...

No group faces more discrimination in politics than atheists, according to a 2012 Gallup poll. The poll found 43 percent of voters said they would not vote for an atheist candidate for president -- a higher percentage than Muslims or gays and lesbians. There are currently no openly atheist members of Congress.Apr 2, 2015
Religious freedom debate now includes atheists — aka the ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../religious-freedom...

13% is higher than the Black population, Gay population or Muslim population yet no openly atheist members of Congress. I think people are afraid to call themselves atheists because a repercussions.

[Justus]

Originally Posted by tomwed

However, many of the country's 46 million unaffiliated adults [33 percent of Americans are simply unaffiliated and 13 percent are atheist/agnostic] are religious or spiritual in some way. Two-thirds of them say they believe in God (68%).Oct 9, 2012
Pew: 20% of Americans Are Now Atheist, Agnostic or ...

No group faces more discrimination in politics than atheists, according to a 2012 Gallup poll. The poll found 43 percent of voters said they would not vote for an atheist candidate for president -- a higher percentage than Muslims or gays and lesbians. There are currently no openly atheist members of Congress.Apr 2, 2015
Religious freedom debate now includes atheists — aka the ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../religious-freedom...

13% is higher than the Black population, Gay population or Muslim population yet no openly atheist members of Congress. I think people are afraid to call themselves atheists because a repercussions.

Tom,
I don't believe that discrimination is the reason for atheists not declaring their belief...I believe they are superstitious and are afraid if they say it out loud then suddenly die, they won't go to heaven.

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by Justus

Tom,
I don't believe that discrimination is the reason for atheists not declaring their belief...I believe they are superstitious and are afraid if they say it out loud then suddenly die, they won't go to heaven.

I agree with you. They don't chose atheism because they embrace discrimination. It's a personal choice.

But isn't it odd that it's the personal choice of over 10% of the population yet not one congressman chooses to tell his constituency he is an atheist or makes that choice.

[RickeyD]

Originally Posted by Justus

Tom,
I don't believe that discrimination is the reason for atheists not declaring their belief...I believe they are superstitious and are afraid if they say it out loud then suddenly die, they won't go to heaven.

Atheists do not believe. It's an individual choice with each person not affiliated with other atheists. For the most part they do not seek each other out because it is NOT a belief system in any way. They are discriminated against because people equate atheists with evil, which they are not. Evil is in fact the obverse side of the religious coin. If one declares him or herself an atheist superstitious thoughts do not exist, that is the realm of the agnostic.

[kittygilchrist]

Hmmm...I was going to say how nice that we stayed on topic and had civil discussion. I was busy and by the time I got back I was too late.

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by kittygilchrist

Hmmm...I was going to say how nice that we stayed on topic and had civil discussion. I was busy and by the time I got back I was too late.

I think the horse has been beaten to death.....

[gomoho]

Originally Posted by RickeyD

Atheists do not believe. It's an individual choice with each person not affiliated with other atheists. For the most part they do not seek each other out because it is NOT a belief system in any way. They are discriminated against because people equate atheists with evil, which they are not. Evil is in fact the obverse side of the religious coin. If one declares him or herself an atheist superstitious thoughts do not exist, that is the realm of the agnostic.

Totally off topic, but doesn't saying you don't believe in something confirm its existence? How do you not believe in something that isn't?

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by Steve9930

I think the horse has been beaten to death.....

I hear that expression quite a bit in these kinds of threads.

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by gomoho

Totally off topic, but doesn't saying you don't believe in something confirm its existence? How do you not believe in something that isn't?

Suppose you don't believe in global warming or the tooth faerie. Using your logic wouldn't that mean that it exists? Maybe I misunderstood what you meant.

[billethkid]

[RickeyD]

Originally Posted by gomoho

Totally off topic, but doesn't saying you don't believe in something confirm its existence? How do you not believe in something that isn't?

Not believing the belief does not confirm its existence, it confirms the belief is not reality.

[mtdjed]

Good news. Home Security correctly vetted Tashfeen Malik this week. At least they now know they were wrong last year. But they got it right now. Perhaps, using the newfound knowledge, they can properly vet new immigrants before they allow entry.

Or is it too much work?

[kcrazorbackfan]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

We should be encouraging Muslims to watch other Muslims for signs of being radicalized. That means keeping them our friends by treating them in a Christian manner according to the Golden Rule of doing undo others as you would have to yourself.

Muslims would be most attune to what's in The Koran and also what are the teachings of their local leaders in that community.

I do not have any Muslim friends that I know of here in the Villages but probably have some on my Facebook page. I do not ask their religion when they befriend me or I befriend them.

You really don't think that muslims are going to do that, do you? Birds of a feather do flock together.

IT has began.

[LuckySevens]

Originally Posted by billethkid

the video is no longer on the link provided, however it is available on you tube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79prQ3BN8RQ

If it does not come up then do a search on the title "silence is consent".

If one is making any attempt at all trying to understand what is going on around us involving "muslims" and what they believe, this girls account should definitely be included....even if it only becomes a basis for challenging what she states to be true, factual or experience.

It is almost 9 minutes long which can be a challenge for some. But if you want an eye opener then just sit and watch. The you decide what to do next about it.

Is she just telling us what we want to hear? I personally do not know. However, I am now committed to learn more using her presentation as a basis.

One thing is for certain, as presented she is very convincing because it does fit that which we are witnessing around the world as we live.

Watch it and decide for yourself.

What do you think about her presentation? Her intent?

I could open the link from Kitty, in fact, I posted the same link earlier. WATCH: Woman Who Was Raised Muslim Just Dropped Truth Bomb About Islam EVERY Lib MUST See

[villagerjack]

3
Billion Friendly Muslims and only 300,000 ISIS and the friendlies are losing? Think about that! How can that happen ? It sounds implausible. Are they all cowards?