[MikeVillages]

Originally Posted by mikempp

I still have dish. It's about $90 a month. Are the other options better?

You can get an antenna. A few months of not paying disk will pay for the antenna & installation.
Lots of free channels like local news & weather, numerus US and some international channels. You can add plex. tv for free streaming and will have more than you can ever watch.

I recommend ZapperBox M1 - ATSC 3.0, 4K, HDR, and Dolby(R) AC-4 Tuner for an execulent DVR. It supports the current ATSC 1.0 and newer ATSC 3.0 tv standards including encryption. It will soon support multiple TVs over your local home network.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Probably should have looked into it a little before making that comment.

And I don’t care

[New Englander]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

No local news or sports channels. It's all the same stuff (other than the History channel) that comes free with a Roku or smartTV.

For Free, the Roku channel is pretty darn good.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by New Englander

For Free, the Roku channel is pretty darn good.

Roku offers a ton of content on a variety of channels. Huge menu, over 350 channels. You can watch the Miss Universe pageant live, you can access one of the Reuters channels (some of them are subscription only), ABC and NBC live, Cheddar News, Live sports coverage (nothing "local"), Lifetime and Hallmark movies, Every possible syndicated rerun that's ever been broadcast since the 1950s...

Scores of movies (many obscure), AccuWeather, Cooking shows, This Old House...

All free. Plus you can "add on" options like Cinemax and HBO/MAX, Showtime, and Starz for an extra fee.

[ithos]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

It's great if you don't mind paying for a company that allows illegal broadcasts, copyright infringements, and pirated content that means the people who created the content don't get paid.

No, Apollo doesn't do that themselves. They just PROVIDE it. That's how they get away with being called "legal." If you're using this, and any broadcast group is investigating warez (what all that illegal pirating stuff is called), and one of the pings traces back to you, they WILL shut you off, and you CAN be prosecuted.

There is a similar service called OMNIVision which provides the exact same service.

Apollo TV, like many similar services, operates in a legal gray area or outright violates copyright laws by providing access to copyrighted content without authorization. Whether an end user can be fined or punished for subscribing to such a service depends on several factors, including local laws, enforcement practices, and the extent of the user’s involvement. Here's a breakdown:

1. Legal Status of Apollo TV
If Apollo TV streams copyrighted content without proper licenses, the service itself is likely violating copyright laws. In many jurisdictions, offering such a service is illegal.
2. Legal Risks for End Users
The extent of liability for end users depends on their country and how the law views streaming or downloading unauthorized content:

In the United States:
End users typically face less risk for simply streaming unauthorized content, as U.S. copyright law targets those who distribute or host the material. However, downloading or redistributing content could increase legal liability.
Subscription to such a service may also expose the user to investigation if the service is explicitly tied to illegal activities.

Last year an Omnivision rep was giving a sales presentation at Brownwood. The industry knows about it but doesn't do a damn thing about it.

Technically speaking, if you record the illegal content then you can be held civilly liable.

But there is almost a zero percent chance that will ever happen.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by ithos

There is a similar service called OMNIVision which provides the exact same service.

Last year an Omnivision rep was giving a sales presentation at Brownwood. The industry knows about it but doesn't do a damn thing about it.

Technically speaking, if you record the illegal content then you can be held civilly liable.

But there is almost a zero percent chance that will ever happen.

I vaguely recall one story that came out in some investigative journalism about this topic a few years ago. It involved someone who /was/ prosecuted for copying illegal content from a "grey area" provider of illegal content (aka Warez). Anyone who owns the copyright to content OR gets paid residuals when content is used (actors, directors, etc) - has the right to press charges when they discover someone is using it without them getting their percentage for the work THEY created.

And - there absolutely have been customers of some of these shady businesses that have been cut off from their service, with zero recourse even after they've paid for a year of service in advance (that was a thing for awhile).

[MikeVillages]

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