Originally Posted by Guest

No, it's not. Maybe for you, but not me, and I think I'm still allowed to have an opinion in this country - at least for now. We are talking about THIS tragedy and it did happen on HIS watch. If he doesn't feel some sense of responsibility then he doesn't deserve to be our President. It is my opinion that President Obama has done nothing but put this country in a position of weakness on so many fronts. Again, in my opinion, this is only the beginning.

...again, exactly what would have the President do to have prevented this tragedy?

It looks as though the shooter was a naturalized US citizen and was in the country since 2001. He would have been around 9 years old at that time.

Originally Posted by Guest

It is correct to say that Obama is not directly responsible for this tragedy in TN. However his policies and attitude toward the subject matter of Islamic terrorist is clear because he goes out of his way to protect the Islam. The massacre at Fort Hood being listed as work place violence is one example.
And hence is mishandling of this matter makes him indirectly responsible.

Obama has made it clear that protection of our homeland is secondary to his domestic agenda. His focus is on turning America into a toothless European nation He does not operate from a position of inexperience or incompetence. No his actions are intentional, well planned out movements to transform America. If one compares Alinsky's 7 steps to socialism they will see that in every respect Obama has followed that blueprint

Progressives too busy with gun control ,attacking religious freedoms, gender and gay issues can't and won't see the damage Obama is creating.

The tragedy in TN points out that we should reconsider NSA's programs and that profiling does work. This killers father was on the government radar and if we had a president that was more vigilant 4 people might be alive today.

As a member of the silent majority I will be silent no more and I don't care whose feelings get hurt because America's children are going to be deprived of the true blessings of this nation if progressive continue their march to destroy traditional values, patriotism and this nation's Judeo-Christian beliefs

Personal Best Regards:

First you have to be silent to be silent no more.

Originally Posted by Guest

First you have to be silent to be silent no more.

Perhaps he was silent and that was his first post?

Please don't let the contrarians tactic of switching the meaning or go off on a tangent that has nothing to do with the thread.

Their only goal is to disrupt.

Originally Posted by Guest

Perhaps he was silent and that was his first post?

Probably more than 192.

Originally Posted by Guest

Please don't let the contrarians tactic of switching the meaning or go off on a tangent that has nothing to do with the thread.

Their only goal is to disrupt.

AND they never stop or go away. NEVER on subject. ONLY to mock.

I read a comment in the normal talk area about not even trying on this forum. I suspect I am going that way also.

Mocking and making fun of people is NOT discussion, at least in the adult world.

Originally Posted by Guest

It is correct to say that Obama is not directly responsible for this tragedy in TN. However his policies and attitude toward the subject matter of Islamic terrorist is clear because he goes out of his way to protect the Islam. The massacre at Fort Hood being listed as work place violence is one example.
And hence is mishandling of this matter makes him indirectly responsible.

Obama has made it clear that protection of our homeland is secondary to his domestic agenda. His focus is on turning America into a toothless European nation He does not operate from a position of inexperience or incompetence. No his actions are intentional, well planned out movements to transform America. If one compares Alinsky's 7 steps to socialism they will see that in every respect Obama has followed that blueprint

Progressives too busy with gun control ,attacking religious freedoms, gender and gay issues can't and won't see the damage Obama is creating.

The tragedy in TN points out that we should reconsider NSA's programs and that profiling does work. This killers father was on the government radar and if we had a president that was more vigilant 4 people might be alive today.

As a member of the silent majority I will be silent no more and I don't care whose feelings get hurt because America's children are going to be deprived of the true blessings of this nation if progressive continue their march to destroy traditional values, patriotism and this nation's Judeo-Christian beliefs

Personal Best Regards:

Great post. I wish I could articulate my thoughts as well as you do, but in effect you explained the meaning of my usage of the word "responsibility" in a previous post. It is more in an indirect manner that I was referring to as a result of his posturing on other related issues.

As far as the rest of your post goes, I stand with you and appreciate your ability to verbalize what many of us believe to be true. I don't think Obama has made it a secret what his intentions are and anyone who doesn't see it has either got their head in the sand or are so blinded by their ideology that they don't care what the ultimate outcome might be.

Originally Posted by Guest

AND they never stop or go away. NEVER on subject. ONLY to mock.

I read a comment in the normal talk area about not even trying on this forum. I suspect I am going that way also.

Mocking and making fun of people is NOT discussion, at least in the adult world.

Satire

The use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.


Not everything is mockery. BTW, if there is a "normal" forum what should this one be called?

Originally Posted by Guest

Satire

The use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.


Not everything is mockery. BTW, if there is a "normal" forum what should this one be called?

No matter what you call it, it doesn't seem appropriate on this forum when you are talking about the deaths of Americans and other serious matters.

Originally Posted by Guest

Satire

The use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.


Not everything is mockery. BTW, if there is a "normal" forum what should this one be called?

Please do not consider the ongoing, routine rude disrespectful purposeful trash talk here as satire. Satire properly used does at times add value. The trash talk here NEVER ever adds value.

For the few, they view this forum as their Rude disrestful BS opportunity!

Originally Posted by Guest

Please do not consider the ongoing, routine rude disrespectful purposeful trash talk here as satire. Satire properly used does at times add value. The trash talk here NEVER ever adds value.

For the few, they view this forum as their Rude disrestful BS opportunity!

I agree. But when certain posters blame Obama for everything as their default reasoning, chastise anyone for not agreeing with their views, and the only things in their arsenal are Saul Alinsky, Jeremiah Wright, William Ayers, and the Black Panthers some satire is called for. And the constant mention that this is the worst of times and the end must be near never enhances the chance of a civil discussion.

No matter who is President makes it possible to thwart all the terrorist plans - be they from a young Radical Muslim, a right wing-extremist individual or group, or just a crazy murderer like the Sandy Hook shooter or the Colorado theater shooter.

Originally Posted by Guest

I agree. But when certain posters blame Obama for everything as their default reasoning, chastise anyone for not agreeing with their views, and the only things in their arsenal are Saul Alinsky, Jeremiah Wright, William Ayers, and the Black Panthers some satire is called for. And the constant mention that this is the worst of times and the end must be near never enhances the chance of a civil discussion.

Very good post.

Obama is 100% responsible for the safety of all Americans He can absolutely sign a piece of paper and make sure our military is armed now that Muslims are in a war to kill americans. He has a duty to protect us so don't give us the old "its not his fault". He took an oath to protect AMERICA and is failing miserably

I think my father was fooling around. I have brother by another mother, and he is posting here. I have to reiterate what he had to say. I don't think Mr. Best Wishes was ever a part of the silent majority. You don't read both sides of an argument, and keeping your opinions to yourself. Don't take the wrong way. Everyone should get involved, especially with the current state of politics. Open minded people are our only chance to restore sanity into government.

I do that small issue with your opinion about the 2009 killings at Fort Hood. It took six years to call it what it was terrorism, and do the right thing by the victims families. However, the terrorist in 2009 were Bin Laden's followers, and not ISIS. The feeling in 2009 President Obama was protecting Muslims in this country, and not protecting terrorists. There was some feeling the Pentagon was going on the cheap, and not paying the victims families by calling it work place violence. It took too long too fix their nonsense.

To call President a communist is beyond the pale. That is like calling the Republicans NAZIS, because all they want to do is increase military spending at the cost of the poor. If the threat to the poor from the Republicans is greater than ISIS could ever hope to accomplish, why shouldn't he protect them by placing an even amount of money in both areas. Isn't it a Christian belief, and Marine policy, the strong help and protect the weak? I am not a bleeding heart liberal. How do you know what the poor are going through, if you have never been there?

Didn't US citizens want us to get out of Iraq. "W" signed an agreement with Iraq's president giving a date certain to leave. I don't think ISIS was a great threat to us as they are now. Is it toothless to expect the sane countries in that area to get involved, and rendered ISIS toothless? Why do we have to be the world's policeman?

Why didn't the Republicans in the Senate approved giving President Obama war authority against Syria, when he asked for it? To make sure he couldn't cross the red line, so they could call he WEAK.

President Obama was called a center left politician, when he took office. He had done next to nothing, and people were yelling "give us our country back". My opinion the Republican party has moved much further right than him to the left. Who cares who more further in their direction of choice? They are so far apart next to nothing is working. How can that be good for anything?