Originally Posted by Guest

McVeigh was pre 9/11. Let me clarify that more Americans were killed on US soil by domestic terrorists than foreign since 9/11.

Who the H*ll cares if it was pre 911 he was a right wing domestic terrorist!!

Originally Posted by Guest

Come on, stop blaming President for everything. It is damn near impossible to stop a lone wolf terrorist especially if that person has a brain in their head. Why not blame the NRA? How did he get the weapons he used? Why didn't FBI catch this person in the background check before he bought the guns, if the purchases for recent?

Your hatred for President Obama doesn't justify blaming him for everything.

Please direct those of us who are not as smart as you to the post that blamed the President ?

Originally Posted by Guest

If the shooter was a naturalized US citizen, he was an American!

I would start by placing blame on the National Rifle Association since they demand guns be made available to all Americans.

And the contrarian tries yet again to swing the spot light off the real target (pun intended) to some BS story.

Let us take your presentation of him being an American.....you don't really expect any sentient being with a heratbeat to accept because he was an American that he wasn't an ISIS representative?

Do you have some notion that ISIS would be promoting positioning their kind to either be an American recruit or encouraging Muslims to become an American to become better imbedded.

It must be very uncomfortable seeing everything through your belly button!

Several things were notable after today's terrorist attack.

The FBI was in charge in less than 6 hours....a first!
The news release was almost instantaneous that the shooter was a lone wolf....way before any investigation.
And Obama as with incidents he has an investment in had his face in the camera within hours.

I am not a proponent of conspiracy type thinking but I do 100% subscrbe to managed situations. Right or wrong the sequence of events do beg questioning why or how these things occurred so quickly and not normal?

Originally Posted by Guest

Several things were notable after today's terrorist attack.

The FBI was in charge in less than 6 hours....a first!
The news release was almost instantaneous that the shooter was a lone wolf....way before any investigation.
And Obama as with incidents he has an investment in had his face in the camera within hours.

I am not a proponent of conspiracy type thinking but I do 100% subscrbe to managed situations. Right or wrong the sequence of events do beg questioning why or how these things occurred so quickly and not normal?

The Department of Justice (FBI) took the lead in this investigation because the victims were US military personnel.

Originally Posted by Guest

If the shooter was a naturalized US citizen, he was an American!

I would start by placing blame on the National Rifle Association since they demand guns be made available to all Americans.

And if he had used a pressure cooker bomb, would you blamed Betty Crooker?

I don't dislike the NRA. I don't like their threats to make sure any House or Senate member, who doesn't go along with them, will be a target in the next election. One issue voters are worth a damn. They are just closed minded individuals. I threw the NRA in my post, because you could blame four or five government agencies, and guns for these murders. Placing all the blame on President Obama for everything seems to be the path Republican elected officals and their followers take all to often.

Our military should Not be unarmed when we are at war. Why is Obama at fault? Because Obama won't admit we are at war. Our guys are sitting ducks. Unacceptable

Originally Posted by Guest

Come on, stop blaming President for everything. It is damn near impossible to stop a lone wolf terrorist especially if that person has a brain in their head. Why not blame the NRA? How did he get the weapons he used? Why didn't FBI catch this person in the background check before he bought the guns, if the purchases for recent?

Your hatred for President Obama doesn't justify blaming him for everything.

He is Commander-in-Chief of our armed forces and the leader of this country. Why would he NOT be responsible to some degree when things like this happen? I don't know about you, but when I vote for President of the US, one of my main considerations is his ability and desire to protect this country and it's citizens. Maybe next time around we should be more careful who we choose.

Originally Posted by Guest

He is Commander-in-Chief of our armed forces and the leader of this country. Why would he NOT be responsible to some degree when things like this happen? I don't know about you, but when I vote for President of the US, one of my main considerations is his ability and desire to protect this country and it's citizens. Maybe next time around we should be more careful who we choose.

...and exactly what would YOU have a President do so this tragedy would not have happened?

It looks as though the 24 year old shooter came to the US in 2001. Who was President in 2001? Under whose watch did the Twin Towers tragedy happen?
Kind of hard to blame Pres. Obama, isn't it?

Originally Posted by Guest

...and exactly what would YOU have a President do so this tragedy would not have happened?

It looks as though the 24 year old shooter came to the US in 2001. Who was President in 2001? Under whose watch did the Twin Towers tragedy happen?
Kind of hard to blame Pres. Obama, isn't it?

No, it's not. Maybe for you, but not me, and I think I'm still allowed to have an opinion in this country - at least for now. We are talking about THIS tragedy and it did happen on HIS watch. If he doesn't feel some sense of responsibility then he doesn't deserve to be our President. It is my opinion that President Obama has done nothing but put this country in a position of weakness on so many fronts. Again, in my opinion, this is only the beginning.

I think it was Nixon who said, "I will taken responsibility for something when it goes wrong, but not the blame. People, who take the blame, get fired." With responsibility, doesn't come condemnation. Why don't you get off the man's ass. Blaming him for this, isn't going to get you anywhere.

This was a very well educated lone wolf. This wasn't some moron, that stuffed a bomb in his shoes. There possibly won't be any fault to go around. However, soldiers off post doing military business in a fixed location, should be armed. The threat from ISIS is there, and isn't going away.

Originally Posted by Guest

I think it was Nixon who said, "I will taken responsibility for something when it goes wrong, but not the blame. People, who take the blame, get fired." With responsibility, doesn't come condemnation. Why don't you get off the man's ass. Blaming him for this, isn't going to get you anywhere.

This was a very well educated lone wolf. This wasn't some moron, that stuffed a bomb in his shoes. There possibly won't be any fault to go around. However, soldiers off post doing military business in a fixed location, should be armed. The threat from ISIS is there, and isn't going away.

Not sure to whom you are directing your comments, but if it's me, you will note in my post above yours that I did specifically say responsibility not blame, and that is exactly what I meant. Your last 2 statements I agree with totally.

It was you about responsibility. There was nothing wrong with your post. I just wanted to point out a great president wanted to make sure that everyone knew there is a difference between responsibility and blame. When that great president spoke, everybody listened.

This is off thread, but Donald Trump brought up another thing that great president claimed as his own "The Silent Majority". It made me laugh. This was pure genius on Nixon's part. One hundred people could be in a room. They all could speak in disagreement or agree , but you could still say the silent majority was behind you. Why? Because as soon as they spoke, they became part of the vocal minority. I don't know , if Trump claiming the silent majority as his own, will work, but it is a smart thing to claim. If anyone disagrees with Trump, and opens their mouth, they are part of the vocal minority.

It is correct to say that Obama is not directly responsible for this tragedy in TN. However his policies and attitude toward the subject matter of Islamic terrorist is clear because he goes out of his way to protect the Islam. The massacre at Fort Hood being listed as work place violence is one example.
And hence is mishandling of this matter makes him indirectly responsible.

Obama has made it clear that protection of our homeland is secondary to his domestic agenda. His focus is on turning America into a toothless European nation He does not operate from a position of inexperience or incompetence. No his actions are intentional, well planned out movements to transform America. If one compares Alinsky's 7 steps to socialism they will see that in every respect Obama has followed that blueprint

Progressives too busy with gun control ,attacking religious freedoms, gender and gay issues can't and won't see the damage Obama is creating.

The tragedy in TN points out that we should reconsider NSA's programs and that profiling does work. This killers father was on the government radar and if we had a president that was more vigilant 4 people might be alive today.

As a member of the silent majority I will be silent no more and I don't care whose feelings get hurt because America's children are going to be deprived of the true blessings of this nation if progressive continue their march to destroy traditional values, patriotism and this nation's Judeo-Christian beliefs

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