Originally Posted by Guest

I don't know if this question has been asked yet but supposing the villages were an all black community, Would any of you snowflakes want to live there?
assumptiveness, The ability to put aside all reason and pretend to be an all knowing deity. Yes it's My creation and couldn't have come along soon enough.

Lets have a show of hands...all the people who would want their daughter or granddaughters living in a 99% black place...an apartment on MLK Blvd.

The most dangerous cities in America ALL have high black populations.

The most dangerous cities in America

Originally Posted by Guest

You have got to be kidding me! I share a personal story about how my family kept my sister off the rolls and all you can say is an insult about her choice in men, she was married for more than 20 years to that idiot, and to say that somehow my post indicates you should have to pay for welfare. Please show me where I said that?

And the porn thing is just way out of line!

You just admitted he was RIGHT to question her choice in men...YOU called HIM an idiot...is her choosing an "idiot" to marry, a "good" choice? No? Then he's was correct to question HER judgment. WHY are the women ALWAYS seen as the victim?

Originally Posted by Guest

Lets have a show of hands...all the people who would want their daughter or granddaughters living in a 99% black place...an apartment on MLK Blvd.

The most dangerous cities in America ALL have high black populations.

The most dangerous cities in America



You just admitted he was RIGHT to question her choice in men...YOU called HIM an idiot...is her choosing an "idiot" to marry, a "good" choice? No? Then he's was correct to question HER judgment. WHY are the women ALWAYS seen as the victim?

Mr Baldwin....I find your constant racist posts disgusting.

Originally Posted by Guest

Mr Baldwin....I find your constant racist posts disgusting.

iT IS DISGUSTING.

What is alarming is those who attack one poster because he does not follow or agree with their political philosophy.

Folks on here supporting the coordinated attack on this person, such as Rubicon and a number of others simply validate their support for this kind of talk. Note who they NEVER criticize and who violates not only rules of TOTV but rules of common decency..

These posters escape their hypocritical critique.

They find this racial trash, and referring to women using disgusting terms to be much more acceptable than someone who objects to the alt right extremism.

It is very sad.

Originally Posted by Guest

Mr Baldwin....I find your constant racist posts disgusting.

Well why don't you show us all how wrong I am...think you're up to it?

All I do is ask the question...WHERE are all these great things that blacks do? Where are they ACTUALLY our equal? ONE THING...besides sports/music...just ONE thing where a black is the worlds greatest. ONE PLACE that is a majority black where you'd actually want yourself or your granddaughters to live.

My disgust is with YOU who can't seem to see the forest for the trees. Their INEQUALITY stares you in the face...MLK Blvd for one...and yet you REFUSE to acknowledge it. Instead of seeing the BIG picture, you keep focusing on small isolated incidents where A black got lucky and did good for someone OTHER than blacks.

WHY am I wrong for thinking like I do? Show me WHY you think they are our equal. PROVE to me they're fully human. That is my argument, we're different species being forced together by a political government who benefits from the social turmoil it creates and their constant need for poverty relief. A LOT of people make a LOT of money off the welfare system. JPM runs the SNAP card program. Big Ag makes a killing selling the food that 50 million people on foodstamps get per month. $5 billion a month goes to the likes of Kraft, Tyson, ADM, Cargill indirectly through welfare payments. The government gives the "poor" free money to buy those corporations products. The corporations in turn give money to get politicians elected who then enact bigger and better welfare programs...that benefits the corporations...and the cycle continues.

Originally Posted by Guest

iT IS DISGUSTING.

What is alarming is those who attack one poster because he does not follow or agree with their political philosophy.

Folks on here supporting the coordinated attack on this person, such as Rubicon and a number of others simply validate their support for this kind of talk. Note who they NEVER criticize and who violates not only rules of TOTV but rules of common decency..

These posters escape their hypocritical critique.

They find this racial trash, and referring to women using disgusting terms to be much more acceptable than someone who objects to the alt right extremism.

It is very sad.

So...I take it neither of you will raise your hands and go spend some time on MLK Blvd?

And yet in the same breath...insult me for saying what deep down you agree with. You WOULDN'T go live there, youe wouldn't send her there. Because you KNOW I'm right, you just can't IMAGINE that they ARE a different species to be treated as a different species.

We let our dogs run the household...don't take it too far by allowing minorities to run the country.

I haven't attacked her...in fact, I say I agree when I do...it's not often, but it does happen...she IS sometimes correct...but often with the wrong interpretation.

YOU PEOPLE on the other hand...attack ME like I'm Cinderella or a red headed step child. It's open season on me. What did you say to me?

Face it lady...you're NOT a man...you're not going to be no matter how many things you screw up when you force yourself in. Hate men for being better than you all you want...it'll only make you miserable. IF you WERE equal, you wouldn't NEED your own category, you wouldn't NEED quotas. People would bid for you...fight for you. As it is...there always seems to be a "woman's division" and it's NOT to help the men...

Live in your world of delusion...where you convince yourself you're an equal. Just don't drag me into it.

Got any facts? Or just more name calling?

CNM is getting picked on...because CNM picks on others.

I defend myself...I'm not aggressive...unless you attack first. Then I tear the mama bear to pieces...because I'm papa bear.

If you want to discuss with facts, I'd love to...if you just want to b!tch and moan about how "unfair" it is...I am...then move it to the "women only" forum where all this drama belongs. There's NEVER drama until women get involved. Men duke it out, determine order, and move on...women rejoice in the continuous drama. It's just one of our differences, how we're made.

Originally Posted by Guest

iT IS DISGUSTING.

What is alarming is those who attack one poster because he does not follow or agree with their political philosophy.

Folks on here supporting the coordinated attack on this person, such as Rubicon and a number of others simply validate their support for this kind of talk. Note who they NEVER criticize and who violates not only rules of TOTV but rules of common decency..

These posters escape their hypocritical critique.

They find this racial trash, and referring to women using disgusting terms to be much more acceptable than someone who objects to the alt right extremism.

It is very sad.

I am NOT part of a co-ordinated attack on anyone. I just personally find this posters racist posts offensive.

We still have the right to free speech...Mr Baldwin can say racists things all day long and I can say they are offensive to me.

Originally Posted by cologal

You have got to be kidding me! I share a personal story about how my family kept my sister off the rolls and all you can say is an insult about her choice in men, she was married for more than 20 years to that idiot, and to say that somehow my post indicates you should have to pay for welfare. Please show me where I said that?

And the porn thing is just way out of line!

As Don pointed out you agree with me - your sister has poor taste in men...she was married for 20 years and then the guy cheated on her one time...doubt that! He was banging stuff on the side and either she was too dumb to know or she just finally got tired of the situation.

You did not answer the questions, just whined about your feelings...and if you want to give out welfare we all have to pay for it via our taxes! You must have thought they had a tree they pick the food stamps off of.

The porn thing can happen!

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Originally Posted by Guest

I am NOT part of a co-ordinated attack on anyone. I just personally find this posters racist posts offensive.

We still have the right to free speech...Mr Baldwin can say racists things all day long and I can say they are offensive to me.

And that's ALL you can say about them...because they're ALL true facts.

Blacks are NOT us...they're a different species and "mainstreaming" them into our modern society is fruitless. We've tried for 60 years...it's failed MISERABLY...it's time to stop the "equality" foolishness that has brought the country down for #1 to #25 in those 60 years.

You can THINK whatever you want...and you'd be wrong.

Originally Posted by Guest

As Don pointed out you agree with me - your sister has poor taste in men...she was married for 20 years and then the guy cheated on her one time...doubt that! He was banging stuff on the side and either she was too dumb to know or she just finally got tired of the situation.

You did not answer the questions, just whined about your feelings...and if you want to give out welfare we all have to pay for it via our taxes! You must have thought they had a tree they pick the food stamps off of.

The porn thing can happen!

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I did clearly answer the questions on how long someone should be allowed to collect welfare.

My sister has only been married once, she married a graduate of the Air Force Academy who she had dated for at least 2 years. He was supposed to be an officer and a gentleman however actually he had narcissistic personality disorder. Being the good Catholic she stayed married to him for 20 years until she could not take it anymore. She never went on welfare or food stamps as the family took care of her and the kids. That included the immediate as well as the extended family when it came to college money.

Both my parents were working class and I grew up with stories about the hardships they faced during the Great Depression. What a life saver FDR and his programs were to the working class. They and my faith taught me to care for the people less fortunate than myself. My father used to say be glad when you are paying taxes because it means to made MONEY.

Obviously you were not raised with these same values. I have stated in other posts I don't believe welfare should be a vocation and I think many people, including entire families abuse the disability program.

Even Jesus said "Give to Caesar that is Caesar and to God what is God"s" So paying taxes is in the Bible. We don't get to decide on what they pay for only that we have to pay them. At least we have no state taxes here.

Originally Posted by DB

So a woman that is not from a tight knit family, and shares your sisters inability to judge men, should cost me taxes for 3-5 years?

And a person that loses their printing job (that industry is dying...) and is holding out for another printing job, should cost me taxes for 1-2 years? How about the guy who lost his job because he was looking at porn on company time, and is having a hard time finding another job as a girls volleyball coach...should he get a 1-2 year vacation watching porn at his home and I have to pay taxes for him??

Originally Posted by COpuff

I did clearly answer the questions on how long someone should be allowed to collect welfare.

No, you did not. You gave a rough outline and I followed up with some detailed questions that would illustrate it is more complicated than your statements.

Originally Posted by COpuff

My sister has only been married once, she married a graduate of the Air Force Academy who she had dated for at least 2 years. He was supposed to be an officer and a gentleman however actually he had narcissistic personality disorder. Being the good Catholic she stayed married to him for 20 years until she could not take it anymore. She never went on welfare or food stamps as the family took care of her and the kids. That included the immediate as well as the extended family when it came to college money.

So your sister married a wingnut that liked to speak in acronyms, and loved the attention of others. It took her 20 years to discovered that she could not change a leopards spots...20 years most likely is due to codependency, she will most likely be attracted to another narcissist. If you post a picture of her, you might find someone on here that would be glad to help fill her void... ;-)

Originally Posted by COpuff

Both my parents were working class and I grew up with stories about the hardships they faced during the Great Depression. What a life saver FDR and his programs were to the working class. They and my faith taught me to care for the people less fortunate than myself. My father used to say be glad when you are paying taxes because it means to made MONEY.

All our parents worked hard and grew up with struggle...what about our children? Can they work hard enough to pay for all the help we have given to the less fortunate than you?? I hope your dad is still around, ask him if he wished they had taken less out of his paycheck so he could have helped his own family more.

Originally Posted by COpuff

Obviously you were not raised with these same values. I have stated in other posts I don't believe welfare should be a vocation and I think many people, including entire families abuse the disability program.

You have no idea what my values are, you might wish to rephrase to "I assume" in lieu of "Obviously".
Yes - you did elude to some of that, but then you threw out a blanket of 3-5 years for the woman that is a poor judge of men and a 1-2 years for the person that was looking for a job.

Originally Posted by COpuff

Even Jesus said "Give to Caesar that is Caesar and to God what is God"s" So paying taxes is in the Bible. We don't get to decide on what they pay for only that we have to pay them. At least we have no state taxes here.

I am Agnostic, so paying MORE taxes so others don't have to support themselves is not a indicator of me being a better person. Feeling sorry for someone to the point that you hold them back in life, is not helping, it is more of that codependency stuff.

Originally Posted by Guest

No, you did not. You gave a rough outline and I followed up with some detailed questions that would illustrate it is more complicated than your statements.



So your sister married a wingnut that liked to speak in acronyms, and loved the attention of others. It took her 20 years to discovered that she could not change a leopards spots...20 years most likely is due to codependency, she will most likely be attracted to another narcissist. If you post a picture of her, you might find someone on here that would be glad to help fill her void... ;-)



All our parents worked hard and grew up with struggle...what about our children? Can they work hard enough to pay for all the help we have given to the less fortunate than you?? I hope your dad is still around, ask him if he wished they had taken less out of his paycheck so he could have helped his own family more.



You have no idea what my values are, you might wish to rephrase to "I assume" in lieu of "Obviously".
Yes - you did elude to some of that, but then you threw out a blanket of 3-5 years for the woman that is a poor judge of men and a 1-2 years for the person that was looking for a job.



I am Agnostic, so paying MORE taxes so others don't have to support themselves is not a indicator of me being a better person. Feeling sorry for someone to the point that you hold them back in life, is not helping, it is more of that codependency stuff.

I have made every effort to have a civil discussion surrounding this issue. Why do you feel the need to change my screen name to COPUFF. Do think that is funny? Did it make you feel better?

I am agnostic myself or as a call it a recovering catholic. I don't see the world as you do.

Originally Posted by Guest

I have made every effort to have a civil discussion surrounding this issue. Why do you feel the need to change my screen name to COPUFF. Do think that is funny? Did it make you feel better?

I am agnostic myself or as a call it a recovering catholic. I don't see the world as you do.

No...you don't...you see it as a WOMAN sees it...emotionally. Often delusionaly. Rarely logically.

It's genetics...I didn't make you that way...I'm just the messenger.

The topic of this thread was "what changes will be made to Obamacare".

Why don't the Republicans come up with an acceptable replacement plan? They have had 7 years to do it and ... zilch.

IF Obamacare is repealed without an immediate replacement that will go in at the same instant that Obamacare is repealed, the good features will be PERMANENTLY lost. This includes the pre-existing conditions! The Part D donut hole will come back!

Republicans may talk but we need to see action. Talk with Webster when he has his meeting!! Tell him to get off his butt and represent us in The Villages.

Originally Posted by Guest

No...you don't...you see it as a WOMAN sees it...emotionally. Often delusionaly. Rarely logically.

It's genetics...I didn't make you that way...I'm just the messenger.

And now a sexist remark....not surprising!!!

Originally Posted by Guest

The topic of this thread was "what changes will be made to Obamacare".

Why don't the Republicans come up with an acceptable replacement plan? They have had 7 years to do it and ... zilch.

IF Obamacare is repealed without an immediate replacement that will go in at the same instant that Obamacare is repealed, the good features will be PERMANENTLY lost. This includes the pre-existing conditions! The Part D donut hole will come back!

Republicans may talk but we need to see action. Talk with Webster when he has his meeting!! Tell him to get off his butt and represent us in The Villages.

Go to only medicare, VA, government gets out of all other insurance programs. Insurance companies sell health insurance for cost plus a reasonable profit. Like a utility. The more you use it...the higher your premiums.

It's the only way. Otherwise the country will just keep getting deeper and deeper into debt. Every $1 million in medical expenses for one person. is 80 years of paying $1,000 a month.

Insurance will get real expensive and there will be death panels...there will have to be...for the old and the young. No more spending $ millions on a 90 y/o to get a few months. No more spending $ millions "saving" a VERY early term preemie who will have medical condition their whole life. It's not economically viable.

The REAL problem is...growth has stalled. We had "unlimited" growth, unlimited cheap labor, unlimited resources...growing productive populations. It led to boom times.

That is gone. Labor is hitting a world minimum wage as everyplace has already been "outsourced" to. Resources are getting scarcer. Arable land scarcer. The populations of poor is rising almost exponentially. While the populations of the white western countries plummets.

There are bigger problems than Obamacare going away...much bigger problems...only they don't talk about those problems.