Can anyone, including the posters from the past explain this to me......give me some answers ?

Did my morals change ? Did your morals change ?

I hope you will not say that Trump's lewd, lie filled, character anemic life does not matter because he might bring some jobs....please......are morals that unimportant to you ?

Is making america great again.....accepting immoral lying and whatever to get what we want no matter the cost. Oh, that sounds nice and then go ahead tell me how abusing verbally our own United States government around the world and then swearing on a bible to uphold what the country stands for, because Obama bad...Clinton bad. NO WAY...that is lame and lazy....you are either moral or immoral and you either demand from our leaders character and morals or you don'.t

Actually, as I think on it.....the only response I have seen is "who cares" which says a lot.

But, important to me,...this posters from the past who either expressed to me their agreement on the questions surrounding Barrack Obama and his associations are worse then Trump himself.

He has always been a bad bad person...you guys like to present how good you are, how you respect character and morals.

Bunk..hypocrite is all I can think of.

You continue to accept Assange, Putin and Trump amazingly WITHOUT QUESTION, and join in assaulting your own country and then say Make America Great Again...bunk,

And do not defend Trump in anyway...by his own admission he has not been briefed yet he has you people agreeing with him bad mouthing groups who have not even spoke with him.

Originally Posted by Guest

Trump is doing and saying/tweeting anything he can to discredit the intelligence community even before he is briefed on the Russian hackers. This is his M.O. The intel community can screw him six ways from Sunday when he needs them most.

Today is the day he is slated to tell us what he knows that no one else knows, presumably including the president. He told reporters he would tell them Tues or Wed, well Tues came and went with nothing, so today is the day. Anybody know what time this announcement will be made?

I said this on the Assange thread. I would not defend Trump, Assange, Hannity, Putin, Obama, etc

My issue with the 17 national intelligence agencies is that they missed 9/11, WMD, Arab Spring, Benghazi, ISIS, Hillary's personal server and deal making with foreign nationals and failed to bring an indictment against her despite an explanation that in fact said they did have sufficient cause.

So as respects whether Putin did or did not hack the DNC I am not going to listen until they show they have returned to competency

Personal Best Regards:

Originally Posted by Guest

I said this on the Assange thread. I would not defend Trump, Assange, Hannity, Putin, Obama, etc

My issue with the 17 national intelligence agencies is that they missed 9/11, WMD, Arab Spring, Benghazi, ISIS, Hillary's personal server and deal making with foreign nationals and failed to bring an indictment against her despite an explanation that in fact said they did have sufficient cause.

So as respects whether Putin did or did not hack the DNC I am not going to listen until they show they have returned to competency

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And THAT justifies the President Elect of the United States PUBLILY to rhe world, assailing our county'hard working people who mostly get it right (and who by the way you are laying things at there feet unfairly)......but you are ok with the public verbal mockery if these people while praising Assange and defending Putin by our President Elect

While, by the way he cavorts with a mobster he said he didn't even know.

Wow

Originally Posted by Guest

And THAT justifies the President Elect of the United States PUBLILY to rhe world, assailing our county'hard working people who mostly get it right (and who by the way you are laying things at there feet unfairly)......but you are ok with the public verbal mockery if these people while praising Assange and defending Putin by our President Elect

While, by the way he cavorts with a mobster he said he didn't even know.

Wow

And by the way...if he felt that way, a decent person would say it privately AFTER being briefed, and not mock them in public, then add an endorsement of Assange and more defense of Putin.

Wow, the 52%er is all fired up, the Wackadoodle check must be late and causing concern.

Shhhhh, you can hear the brakes on that Obamma Free Ride train...

[QUOTE=Guest]I said this on the Assange thread. I would not defend Trump, Assange, Hannity, Putin, Obama, etc

My issue with the 17 national intelligence agencies is that they missed 9/11, WMD, Arab Spring, Benghazi, ISIS, Hillary's personal server and deal making with foreign nationals and failed to bring an indictment against her despite an explanation that in fact said they did have sufficient cause.

So as respects whether Putin did or did not hack the DNC I am not going to listen until they show they have returned to competency





Do you recall the Aug 6, 2001 PDB titled Bin Laden determined to attack the US? They didn't miss it, it was just ignored by W Bush.

They never said there were WMD in Iraq. That was the spin put on it by Cheney and his merry band of neo-cons. Many, many books have been written.

The intelligence community does not bring indictments. They provide information.

Where do you suggest that Trump get his intel from when the nuclear warhead is heading for Seattle? Assuange?


BTW: Are you familiar with the mafia guy Trump spent New Year's Eve with being that you are pure Italian?

Originally Posted by Guest

And by the way...if he felt that way, a decent person would say it privately AFTER being briefed, and not mock them in public, then add an endorsement of Assange and more defense of Putin.

Any decent, respectful, dignified person would say 'I'll wait to see the intelligence report before making remarks'. We know that none of those words are in Trump's vocabulary.

Originally Posted by Guest

Wow, the 52%er is all fired up, the Wackadoodle check must be late and causing concern.

Shhhhh, you can hear the brakes on that Obamma Free Ride train...

Anything I posted that you can dispute in any way ?

Originally Posted by Guest

Anything I posted that you can dispute in any way ?

I was going to ask the same of you...
A case of mistaken identity on my part, please continue on with your gripe.

FYI:
I would accept Assange, Putin, and Trump's word over Obamma or Clinton any day...until they are proven wrong. I don't consider the hacking of a private entity (DNC) as an act of war (in fact I am glad we found out the truth on many matters that were disclosed), but Obamma seems to be portraying it as that (so does "Tin foil hat Jan").

Originally Posted by Guest

I was going to ask the same of you...
A case of mistaken identity on my part, please continue on with your gripe.

FYI:
I would accept Assange, Putin, and Trump's word over Obamma or Clinton any day...until they are proven wrong. I don't consider the hacking of a private entity (DNC) as an act of war (in fact I am glad we found out the truth on many matters that were disclosed), but Obamma seems to be portraying it as that (so does "Tin foil hat Jan").

Frankly, you should do two things...

First, forget Obama as your first response to everything.

Secondly, read a bit, this has nothing to do with Obama, unless you feel that all of our intelligence agencies are in cahoots with Obama, in which case the problem for the country is massive.

If you believe it is ok for the President Elect of the United States to verbally abuse the United States intelligence services and do it publicly world wide. Then compound it be actually quoting Assange as a defense, a man who he suggested a death penalty for in 2010. And to suggest all of this so the world can chuckle at it. If you are ok with this, then I must disagree with you in the strongest terms.

Originally Posted by Guest

What, God doesn't like poor countries?

Au contraire. God does love us all. If you look closer those nations in disaster either left God or the nation's leadership prevents the word of God/worship.

France became very secular. a recent article made mention that a favorite running for office now is a very devout Catholic and suddenly the French are returning to God. I guess the mass killings by terrorist had something to do with their awakening.

My reference to the USA is that we are still free to worship and express our love for God. By doing so we reinforce the principle that our freedoms flow from God. If you review th past 8 years Obama and the progressive party tried at every level to infringe on that freedom. and if you recall the Democratic Party at their 2012 Convention tried to strike the word God from their platform, etc

simply stated without God people are ruled by man and we know what happens then. If you are going to counter with but people do bad things in God's name the operative word is "bad" people, and these bad people are using God's name for evil deeds. God is love

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Originally Posted by Guest

I am self satisfied that I changed my registration from Rep to Ind.

Our new Rep. President did not have to say this...totally and completely unnecessary.

These people he continues to attack and demean are hard working Americans who help protect us.


"President-elect Donald Trump mocked US intelligence officials on Tuesday in a tweet claiming his briefing on Russian cyberattacks was delayed, and once again cast doubt on their claims that Russia interfered with the presidential election.

"The 'Intelligence' briefing on so-called 'Russian hacking' was delayed until Friday, perhaps more time needed to build a case. Very strange!" Trump said on Twitter.

However, a senior US intelligence official immediately refuted Trump’s claim, saying the briefing with the heads of the NSA, CIA, DNI and the FBI was "always" scheduled for Friday, NBC News reported."

Trump claims his briefing on Russian cyberattacks was delayed, but US intelligence officer says otherwise - Business Insider

Dear Guest:

When it comes to government follow the suggest of a great president Ronald Reagan, Trust but verify. Governments are immoral and as such they do not care about right or wrong.
It has been reported that the head of the CIA John Brennan voted for communism in his college days. Is it factual? Has he changed his ideology if it is factual? either way it causes me to rule with my head and not my emotions and to search what is really being said between the lines. and as I said in another post our intelligence agencies failed a number of times. Should a president -elect say to the intelligence community that' it is OK guys that you missed WMD, 9/11, Arab spring, Benghazi, ISIS, Hillary's personal server

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Originally Posted by Guest

Dear Guest:

When it comes to government follow the suggest of a great president Ronald Reagan, Trust but verify. Governments are immoral and as such they do not care about right or wrong.
It has been reported that the head of the CIA John Brennan voted for communism in his college days. Is it factual? Has he changed his ideology if it is factual? either way it causes me to rule with my head and not my emotions and to search what is really being said between the lines. and as I said in another post our intelligence agencies failed a number of times. Should a president -elect say to the intelligence community that' it is OK guys that you missed WMD, 9/11, Arab spring, Benghazi, ISIS, Hillary's personal server

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1. I am a bit strapped for time, but I am SURE those situations you mention were made up by you and I wllmat some point, come back and prove it clearly. That list was straight from the Hannity show and conspiracy theorist.

That does not mean, I blindly am confident that our intelligence community is always 100% correct..it is not.

2. I assume then that Rubicon is just fine with the public statements that he chi throughout the world, made by our President Elect, and you must feel that all his differences are just fine aired in public.

That is not anything but acting in a mean spirited manner, and CERTAINLY will never make America great again.

Originally Posted by Guest

A simple diatribe of nothing. Sorry, but this is a political forum, not a prayer meeting. So, you equate a commentary piece with current events? I really do feel sorry for you.

So a repub is against prayer

Originally Posted by Guest

Can anyone, including the posters from the past explain this to me......give me some answers ?

Did my morals change ? Did your morals change ?

I hope you will not say that Trump's lewd, lie filled, character anemic life does not matter because he might bring some jobs....please......are morals that unimportant to you ?

Is making america great again.....accepting immoral lying and whatever to get what we want no matter the cost. Oh, that sounds nice and then go ahead tell me how abusing verbally our own United States government around the world and then swearing on a bible to uphold what the country stands for, because Obama bad...Clinton bad. NO WAY...that is lame and lazy....you are either moral or immoral and you either demand from our leaders character and morals or you don'.t

I guess the repubs changed from "family values" to "our new leader althought he is a pervert is okay with us."