Originally Posted by Guest

History does not show this. So you think there should not be laws. because " It is even more divisive than leaving people to their own conscience"

Amazing. That's your interpretation of my post? I'd explain it, but I would have no idea where to begin, other than suggest you re-read it and then look up non sequitur in the dictionary. (That's the big book with lots of words but no pictures) And btw, history bears this out, just about every time one groups tries to force their views on other by making "laws", whether they be by a king, an emperor, a dictator or an elected body. We learn this behavior as kids when we a told we HAVE to eat our veggies or HAVE to go to bed at a certain time. We continue it as teenagers when we are told we HAVE to be home by a certain time or we CAN'T hang out with certain friends. As adults (?) we are no different, and as a mob of "adults" we are worse.

Originally Posted by Guest

History does not show this. So you think there should not be laws. because " It is even more divisive than leaving people to their own conscience"

Another extreme opinion by the liberal. Yes, I am sure that the person you are responding to, meant that he did not want ANY LAWS. Geesh, like saying "you must hate conservatives because they don't want to pay for your contraception." Or the teenager that says her mother hates her because she won't let her go a party.

Did he/she say they didn't want ANY LAWS? He/she plainly said that there shouldn't be laws that legislate morality.

In my opinion, laws were meant to protect, not impose or direct a lifestyle. We do need a basic set of laws to protect us from others. Laws regarding a limit on free speech is a bit much.

In my opinion, we do not need any new hate crime laws. And assault is a violent crime and does not need to have the added caveat of the stipulation of bigotry on it. Motive is not necessary if it is obvious that an assault was perpetrated. Murder is murder and adding a bigotry tone to the motive does not make the crime any different. Taking a life is taking a life. If it is done with malice of any sort, it is still murder.

Hate speech is a Constitutional right, even if it is unmannerly. If you are going to impose laws against the use of hate speech upon Muslims, then you had better impose it equally against hate speech upon Christians. Otherwise, you are discriminating.

H. Res 569 is Un-constitutional. The Government cannot promote or single out a particular Religious Group for specific legislation.

Originally Posted by Guest

H. Res 569 is Un-constitutional. The Government cannot promote or single out a particular Religious Group for specific legislation.

Sounds like a valid point, to me. I doubt they would get the votes to pass it anyway.

Originally Posted by Guest

Sounds like a valid point, to me. I doubt they would get the votes to pass it anyway.

No problem the commander in absentia will devise a way to do it....whether we like it or not!!

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No problem the commander in absentia will devise a way to do it....whether we like it or not!!

Another good point.

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In my opinion, we do not need any new hate crime laws. Taking a life is taking a life. If it is done with malice of any sort, it is still murder.

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Basically, like firing 15 shots into a person already laying wounded on the ground?

Basically, like taking a 45 minute "rough ride" in a steel police van for a 7 block trip - and the prisoner with feet shackled and handcuffed hands in back? Died of broken neck - wonder why?

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Originally Posted by Guest

In my opinion, we do not need any new hate crime laws. Taking a life is taking a life. If it is done with malice of any sort, it is still murder.

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Basically, like firing 15 shots into a person already laying wounded on the ground?

Basically, like taking a 45 minute "rough ride" in a steel police van for a 7 block trip - and the prisoner with feet shackled and handcuffed hands in back? Died of broken neck - wonder why?

Like I said before, we don't need any new laws that are redundant. Hate laws are discriminatory in nature. If you assault someone, does it matter if you were doing it because he was a Muslim or gay or black? You committed a crime of violence, so adding to it for a particular motive does not matter. Same with murder. What difference does it make, if the person is dead, he's dead. All you do by labeling it a hate crime is to brew more hate and resentment. Is there any harsher crime for murder if a person did it because he hated someone due to their color, religion or sexual deviation?

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Originally Posted by Guest

In my opinion, we do not need any new hate crime laws. Taking a life is taking a life. If it is done with malice of any sort, it is still murder.

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Basically, like firing 15 shots into a person already laying wounded on the ground?

Basically, like taking a 45 minute "rough ride" in a steel police van for a 7 block trip - and the prisoner with feet shackled and handcuffed hands in back? Died of broken neck - wonder why?

If the driver was black and the victim was black, how do you get a hate crime from it?

That's the way I see it..... they want the Villages to be 100% right wing white people, like God intended.

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That's the way I see it..... they want the Villages to be 100% right wing white people, like God intended.

That's why there's garbage collection twice a week---so we can put out the liberal trash frequently

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that's the way i see it..... They want the villages to be 100% right wing white people, like god intended.

bait!!

Originally Posted by Guest

That's why there's garbage collection twice a week---so we can put out the liberal trash frequently

Originally Posted by Guest

That's the way I see it..... they want the Villages to be 100% right wing white people, like God intended.

Are you responding to someone's comment, or just making a point of stupidity? Either way, it's a radical statement, that appears to provoke someone to make comments on your stupidity. If you are as intelligent as you think you are, prove it.

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If the driver was black and the victim was black, how do you get a hate crime from it?

I get murder out of it. Legally, it is called depraved heart murder.