Originally Posted by Guest

Buddy, if you EVER knew what the heck you were talking about, it would be a miracle! You are totally clueless.

I bet if you take a poll, you will find more on here that agree with him, than with you. I agree with him. On the other hand, you have disputed nothing that he mentioned. Try having an intelligent conversation, and then maybe the rest of us won't think "you are totally clueless."

Originally Posted by Guest

If you check recent Gallup and Pew Research polls, you will find that a majority of Americans are in favor of same sex marriage being legal everywhere.

The majority has ruled and was upheld by the Supreme Court.

Not true, but if it makes you feel better.....

Try reading the poll questions before making broad statements.

Originally Posted by Guest

I am a God fearing liberal Christian. If you read Jesus's teachings, you will be reading the teachings of a liberal by today's standards. Why do conservatives assume they are the only Christians? Why do they assume they are in the majority? The conservatives want to repeal the Affordable Care Act. I think most residents of The Villages are conservatives. How many of them would support repealing Medicare? How many would volunteer or vote for taking away their Medicare benefits? What is so bad about making complete health care, not just emergency health care, available for everybody? There are some things, e.g. military, first responders, infrastructure construction and maintenance, etc. are best done by government; why not health care?

Yes, Obama's dream of a socialist Utopia. Pie in the sky dreams. Why work when the gov can take care of you, right? Gotta love it when liberals, atheists and gays try to justify behavior by using the Bible, Jesus and religion against real believers.

You want the Bible:

2 Thessalonians 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you: that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

Matthew 25:29 For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.

The same with:
Matthew 13:12
Mark 4:25
John 15:2
etc, etc.

Please don't try to use scripture to convince conservatives of what you feel is right. Convince us with something that is fair, balanced, logical and WORKS. I've personally experienced socialism in other countries and I have yet to see a country as great as America. Why try something as old as socialism, when we have something in America that allows everyone the opportunity to live the lifestyle they choose? Sure, there is always room for improvement, but it only works when you WORK at it, not expect others to hand their labors over to you, because you feel that they should share. Believe me, Americans are very charitable and generous. We voluntarily give to those in need. We don't need the gov forcing us at gun point to hand over the fruits of our labor.

Originally Posted by Guest

If you check recent Gallup and Pew Research polls, you will find that a majority of Americans are in favor of same sex marriage being legal everywhere.

The majority has ruled and was upheld by the Supreme Court.

The majority also ruled when they went to the polls on election day 2012 and reelected Barack Obama, who supported same-sex marriage, as opposed to Mitt Romney, who thinks marriage is only between one man and one woman.

BTW: when this Supreme Court ruling came down, 37 states had already legalized same-sex marriage, including Florida.

Originally Posted by Guest

When a major majority of the population believe that marriage is between a man and a woman and 9 people in black robes overrule probably close to 300 million citizens that is no longer a democracy but an anarchy. The supreme court was established to interpret the constitution, not legislate from the bench. That belongs to Congress!

Originally Posted by Guest

The majority also ruled when they went to the polls on election day 2012 and reelected Barack Obama, who supported same-sex marriage, as opposed to Mitt Romney, who thinks marriage is only between one man and one woman.

BTW: when this Supreme Court ruling came down, 37 states had already legalized same-sex marriage, including Florida.

A lot of messed up folks, but just because liberal reps make a decision for the rest of us, does not mean the majority concur. If they truly used a referendum to allow the voters to decide, they get a different decision. NC did it and the voters decided that marriage was between a man and women. Big difference between civil unions and (religious) marriage. Even Christians might allow for a civil union, as long as their religious beliefs are not forced to conform to what they view as deviant behavior not endorsed by the Bible.

Back to the majority. The majority want to abolish Obamacare. The majority do not want their tax money to pay for everyone's college. The majority feel that free cell phones are being abused, that food stamps are being abused, that the border needs to be enforced, that illegals should not be given taxpayer benefits, that marijuana should not be legalized for recreation purposes, etc.

Originally Posted by Guest

A lot of messed up folks, but just because liberal reps make a decision for the rest of us, does not mean the majority concur. If they truly used a referendum to allow the voters to decide, they get a different decision. NC did it and the voters decided that marriage was between a man and women. Big difference between civil unions and (religious) marriage. Even Christians might allow for a civil union, as long as their religious beliefs are not forced to conform to what they view as deviant behavior not endorsed by the Bible.

Back to the majority. The majority want to abolish Obamacare. The majority do not want their tax money to pay for everyone's college. The majority feel that free cell phones are being abused, that food stamps are being abused, that the border needs to be enforced, that illegals should not be given taxpayer benefits, that marijuana should not be legalized for recreation purposes, etc.

We will find out if all this is true on election day 2016.

Marriage should have been left as, and as I believe and many others (probably a majority), is between a man and a woman. Two beings that can create another being.

Those who prefer other than man and woman should be called something else.

We all know it was not called something else because they wanted whatever benefits accorded a man and woman in marriage.

The usual use, abuse or hide behind the law and most importantly a means for politicians to create a new voting block.

We are whoring away and redefining certain aspects of our lives and beliefs we have had for centuries to accomodate the few (and re-election!).

Originally Posted by Guest

Not true, but if it makes you feel better.....

Try reading the poll questions before making broad statements.

Once again, you engage your mouth before putting your brain in gear.
Cite your source for your statement.

Originally Posted by Guest

Once again, you engage your mouth before putting your brain in gear.
Cite your source for your statement.

You first. Polls are like AH's. Everyone has one.

Originally Posted by Guest

Marriage should have been left as, and as I believe and many others (probably a majority), is between a man and a woman. Two beings that can create another being.

Those who prefer other than man and woman should be called something else.

We all know it was not called something else because they wanted whatever benefits accorded a man and woman in marriage.

The usual use, abuse or hide behind the law and most importantly a means for politicians to create a new voting block.

We are whoring away and redefining certain aspects of our lives and beliefs we have had for centuries to accomodate the few (and re-election!).

They can call it whatever they wish. My marriage was a blessing from God. That's one entity that they can't force into acceptance. I can get the law to change my name to Frita or Mary, but that don't make me female in God's eyes. God don't make mistakes and those that feel different are just insulting Him. If they wish to embarrass themselves by dressing as women, it's a free country and I respect their right. And I respect their right to love whatever they wish, be it male to male, female to female, male to dog, horse, sheep, or chicken, etc. The law is the law. But, the law can't legislate blessings from God, no matter what they force from the churches. It's not my responsibility to condemn. That's God's bailiwick.

Originally Posted by Guest

The majority also ruled when they went to the polls on election day 2012 and reelected Barack Obama, who supported same-sex marriage, as opposed to Mitt Romney, who thinks marriage is only between one man and one woman.

BTW: when this Supreme Court ruling came down, 37 states had already legalized same-sex marriage, including Florida.

So, when a GOP candidate is elected in 2016, you will say that the majority now thinks that marriage is between one man and one woman?

Originally Posted by Guest

So, when a GOP candidate is elected in 2016, you will say that the majority now thinks that marriage is between one man and one woman?

If that is the candidate's position and if that candidate is elected, that would be the assumption. We won't know what the candidate's position is until a candidate is elected and the GOP platform is written at next year's convention. For instance, Donald Trump has not voiced his opinion on same-sex marriage.

Originally Posted by Guest

When a major majority of the population believe that marriage is between a man and a woman and 9 people in black robes overrule probably close to 300 million citizens that is no longer a democracy but an anatherchy. The supreme court was established to interpret the constitution, not legislate from the bench. That belongs to Congress!

Dear Guest: The Supreme Court's majority decision was based on flawed logic and bad law. The progressives on this bench engaged in judicial activism.

As to the majority of the population the wrong question is being presented. The question isn't are you in favor of same sex marriage? Rather the question should have been do you believe the definition of marriage should continue to defined as being between one man and one woman?

What the Supreme Court did was to negate the definition of what is a man or what is a woman and by blurring that distinction they have opened a pandora's box.

This issue should not have been left to the supreme court but to individual states or as a referendum.

Roe v Wade was also bad law and has divided this nation since its ruling. The same sex marriage decision is roe v Wade on steroids

Personal Best Regards:

Some here are erroneously trying to make us believe that since The president is a democrat elected by the majority.
Yes to a point. More accurately he was elected by the majority of those who voted.
He in no way represents the real majority.
The gay marriage issue just happened to be rammed through the political and judicial system and does not represent the way the real majority of Americans feel.

If there were a nation wide referendum on the subject of the definition, the real majority would have defeated what has been done recently.

So it is helpful to define the participation of select events.