Originally Posted by Guest

There is just no excuse for ignorance with the availability of the Internet. I believe that is one liberal that won't be responding real fast.

Yes he will.

I doubt if he reads all of the posts. He simply looks for something that will allow an insult.

Believe me, my party...Democratic party....the party for whom I worked tirelessly has now become a very radical group, and has done such a good job with media that they are able to brainwash people like him, and they blindly follow.

When conservatives read these followers posting and implying that they and they alone care about the poor....that they and they alone care income equality....that they and they alone care about racial justice, and knowing that their reading is confined to places that imply that....conservatives don't care, but they, by fact give more of their money and time to needy...conservatives want police to kill blacks, when in fact that is blatantly untrue and has been proven over and over again, it just gets frustrating,

Conservatives are not smarter than liberals; in fact I find those two philosophies great and interesting.

I, however, cannot abide a blind following who follow their leaders into something that will lead to disaster. Is that my opinion, yep, BUT proven over and over and over. Socialism, communism, Marxism are all failed policies and that has become the Democratic Party.

The Democrats on here think that the conservative movement is moving far right. Sorry, the Democrats are moving so fast and so hard to the left, it just looks further away, when in fact the conservative side has not moved from our constitution, our laws and belief in God. That must look far away from so far to the left.

Originally Posted by Guest

Yes he will.

I doubt if he reads all of the posts. He simply looks for something that will allow an insult.

Believe me, my party...Democratic party....the party for whom I worked tirelessly has now become a very radical group, and has done such a good job with media that they are able to brainwash people like him, and they blindly follow.

When conservatives read these followers posting and implying that they and they alone care about the poor....that they and they alone care income equality....that they and they alone care about racial justice, and knowing that their reading is confined to places that imply that....conservatives don't care, but they, by fact give more of their money and time to needy...conservatives want police to kill blacks, when in fact that is blatantly untrue and has been proven over and over again, it just gets frustrating,

Conservatives are not smarter than liberals; in fact I find those two philosophies great and interesting.

I, however, cannot abide a blind following who follow their leaders into something that will lead to disaster. Is that my opinion, yep, BUT proven over and over and over. Socialism, communism, Marxism are all failed policies and that has become the Democratic Party.

The Democrats on here think that the conservative movement is moving far right. Sorry, the Democrats are moving so fast and so hard to the left, it just looks further away, when in fact the conservative side has not moved from our constitution, our laws and belief in God. That must look far away from so far to the left.

Sorry, but the Democratic party of my father no longer exists. It is now referred to as the Democrat party, if we are being generous. As the liberal Democrat party, if irritated, and as socialists if we are being honest about it.
There were conservative democrats in the Democratic party, but they probably dies off or have moved to the Independent party. Why would decent Democrats from the old Democratic party want the stigma of associating with these socialists? Old line Democrats were patriots and some conservative. There was a fine line between the two parties in the old days.

Who is the biggest liar?

Originally Posted by Guest

Who is the biggest liar?

Good question! Your choice, Obama or Hilary.

There is one overwhelming theme here. It is the Democrats are responsible for everything that has gone wrong, since 2000. That is right to include "W's" presidency. Which party is tearing itself apart from within?

The Tea Party isn't part of the problem. Then, why did Boehner leave? What happened to Eric Cantor? How many senate seats did the Democrats keep, because they ran against Tea Party Republicans. How many Republican senator didn't run for reelection, because of what the Senate turned into? Is there one moderate left in the Republican party? Look who is leading the polls in running for the Republican nomination!

If one of the three outsiders gets the nomination, and wins the presidency, how the hell are they going to govern, when their supporters don't want them too. All their supporters want to tear Washington apart, and blame someone else for it. Talk about taking a road to nowhere, this is the fast track to total lunacy.

Not one of you posting on this thread has even hinted that the Republicans in Congress have any responsibility for the current state of the government. Not one! So, why should anybody with an open mind take you seriously?

Look what Hitler did to turn the German economy around from the Great Depression, and out of control inflation caused by World War I pay back (printing money). If it wasn't for that World War II thing, and Jewish thing(lol), Hitler would be looked at differently. Building up a strong military certainly turned that country around. Socialists really liked a strong military. Which party is pushing for a strong military? This entire last paragraph was made in jest, but you see how easy it is to make the opposing party look just plain evil! All it requires is the have a house without mirrors.

Originally Posted by Guest

There is one overwhelming theme here. It is the Democrats are responsible for everything that has gone wrong, since 2000. That is right to include "W's" presidency. Which party is tearing itself apart from within?

The Tea Party isn't part of the problem. Then, why did Boehner leave? What happened to Eric Cantor? How many senate seats did the Democrats keep, because they ran against Tea Party Republicans. How many Republican senator didn't run for reelection, because of what the Senate turned into? Is there one moderate left in the Republican party? Look who is leading the polls in running for the Republican nomination!

If one of the three outsiders gets the nomination, and wins the presidency, how the hell are they going to govern, when their supporters don't want them too. All their supporters want to tear Washington apart, and blame someone else for it. Talk about taking a road to nowhere, this is the fast track to total lunacy.

Not one of you posting on this thread has even hinted that the Republicans in Congress have any responsibility for the current state of the government. Not one! So, why should anybody with an open mind take you seriously?

Look what Hitler did to turn the German economy around from the Great Depression, and out of control inflation caused by World War I pay back (printing money). If it wasn't for that World War II thing, and Jewish thing(lol), Hitler would be looked at differently. Building up a strong military certainly turned that country around. Socialists really liked a strong military. Which party is pushing for a strong military? This entire last paragraph was made in jest, but you see how easy it is to make the opposing party look just plain evil! All it requires is the have a house without mirrors.

I'm not even going to respond to the rest of your rant. Suffice it to say that you have a problem with trying to defend your party and you seem to think that the Tea Party is the fault. At least you have "progressed" from blaming Bush.

The whole mirror thing is kind of funny. After all, I have always thought from the beginning that Obama was all smoke and mirrors. And add a bit of slight of hand.

Oh, and by the way, I am not a member of the Tea Party, but I totally support what they stand for. So, when you think you might disparage anyone by associating them with the TP, you are actually complimenting them.

Originally Posted by Guest

There is one overwhelming theme here. It is the Democrats are responsible for everything that has gone wrong, since 2000. That is right to include "W's" presidency. Which party is tearing itself apart from within?

The Tea Party isn't part of the problem. Then, why did Boehner leave? What happened to Eric Cantor? How many senate seats did the Democrats keep, because they ran against Tea Party Republicans. How many Republican senator didn't run for reelection, because of what the Senate turned into? Is there one moderate left in the Republican party? Look who is leading the polls in running for the Republican nomination!

If one of the three outsiders gets the nomination, and wins the presidency, how the hell are they going to govern, when their supporters don't want them too. All their supporters want to tear Washington apart, and blame someone else for it. Talk about taking a road to nowhere, this is the fast track to total lunacy.

Not one of you posting on this thread has even hinted that the Republicans in Congress have any responsibility for the current state of the government. Not one! So, why should anybody with an open mind take you seriously?

Look what Hitler did to turn the German economy around from the Great Depression, and out of control inflation caused by World War I pay back (printing money). If it wasn't for that World War II thing, and Jewish thing(lol), Hitler would be looked at differently. Building up a strong military certainly turned that country around. Socialists really liked a strong military. Which party is pushing for a strong military? This entire last paragraph was made in jest, but you see how easy it is to make the opposing party look just plain evil! All it requires is the have a house without mirrors.

Your understanding of the "theme" as you refer to it is incredibly untrue and false. I can assure you that many people on this forum and on the past forum have criticized congress.

For myself, I opposed our current Presidents nomination strongly and his election although I posted many times that I felt the Republicans tickets were poor.

I did that on this forum along with others but you must have missed that.

I doubt you know but opening with that statement makes you feel in charge and then you can continue your lecture.

The Tea Party is a strong influence to be sure. I wonder if you even know what they stand for ???? I am not involved in nor do I support them in all their endeavors but they are not all racist, bigots of faggots or whatever vile name is used to describe them on here.

Congress is at fault, most recently by allowing the WH to dictate to them. The House and Senate became Republican but you would never know. THAT is the fault of the Republicans and kudos to the WH for sticking to their guns and doing what they wanted.

To blame any one party for the problem in congress is just foolish. Anyone who does so is not very well read.

The problem comes directly from the WH.

Listen, I decided when he was elected to see how this goes and frankly at the beginning I was a bit excited at his handling of the financial crisis.

He lost me, and I think the entire Republican party with the attitude conveyed and the trickery involved in the ACA. It simply got worse after than and the Republicans in congress just allowed it. People elected the Republicans to congressional control and he continued....kudos to the WH and boos to the Republicans.

It has gotten so bad with the move to Socialism, communism and marxism and the bad mouthing by the WH of anyone who does not agree with him...well, you are seeing the results in the polls.

Your preaching, as untrue as its basis is, fall on deaf ears. If you knew anything, you would understand that the election is over a year away...that not one single VOTE has been cast, that the field is so large that nobody has had the opportunity to even lay out programs. We are in that stage where you just want to get noticed.

I leave you with a few links that talk to the move so far extreme left by the Democrat party is it scary....all from the last few months....

Have Democrats Pulled Too Far Left? | RealClearPolitics

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/27/op...-far-left.html

Jim Webb: Democratic Party has 'moved way far to the left' | MSNBC

Just last week, one of the party favorites Elizabeth Warren gave her blessing to to Black Lives Matter, a marxist inspired group as if it were the only group looking for justice or as if the Democratic party was the only party that supports those in poverty (conservatives by fact give more money and time to the underprivileged)

Elizabeth Warren just gave the speech that Black Lives Matter activists have been waiting for - The Washington Post

Your party has been taken over by radical left wing groups.....that is nothing but fact.

I understand the problems with conservatives as well, but given the choice I will elect to stay with groups who believe in the constitution, the rule of law and such things.

PLEASE, I do not know you, but you sound like you think you are smart but I am afraid that unsupported claims of superiority do not impress me.

Originally Posted by Guest

You're wrong. Go back to junior high civics and read YOUR BOOKS. What party were the Nazis?

"Under the leadership of Adolf Hitler (1889-1945), the National Socialist German Workers’ Party, or Nazi Party, grew into a mass movement and ruled Germany through totalitarian means from 1933 to 1945."
Nazi Party - World War II - HISTORY.com

Get some help, dolt. What was East Germany called? It was the DDR or German Democratic Republic. Was it a democratic system of government? Of course not.

The National Socialist German Workers Party was not Socialist at all. It was a dictatorship with the Tea Party hero of Adolf Hitler at the dictator..

Originally Posted by Guest

Your understanding of the "theme" as you refer to it is incredibly untrue and false. I can assure you that many people on this forum and on the past forum have criticized congress.

For myself, I opposed our current Presidents nomination strongly and his election although I posted many times that I felt the Republicans tickets were poor.

I did that on this forum along with others but you must have missed that.

I doubt you know but opening with that statement makes you feel in charge and then you can continue your lecture.

The Tea Party is a strong influence to be sure. I wonder if you even know what they stand for ???? I am not involved in nor do I support them in all their endeavors but they are not all racist, bigots of faggots or whatever vile name is used to describe them on here.

Congress is at fault, most recently by allowing the WH to dictate to them. The House and Senate became Republican but you would never know. THAT is the fault of the Republicans and kudos to the WH for sticking to their guns and doing what they wanted.

To blame any one party for the problem in congress is just foolish. Anyone who does so is not very well read.

The problem comes directly from the WH.

Listen, I decided when he was elected to see how this goes and frankly at the beginning I was a bit excited at his handling of the financial crisis.

He lost me, and I think the entire Republican party with the attitude conveyed and the trickery involved in the ACA. It simply got worse after than and the Republicans in congress just allowed it. People elected the Republicans to congressional control and he continued....kudos to the WH and boos to the Republicans.

It has gotten so bad with the move to Socialism, communism and marxism and the bad mouthing by the WH of anyone who does not agree with him...well, you are seeing the results in the polls.

Your preaching, as untrue as its basis is, fall on deaf ears. If you knew anything, you would understand that the election is over a year away...that not one single VOTE has been cast, that the field is so large that nobody has had the opportunity to even lay out programs. We are in that stage where you just want to get noticed.

I leave you with a few links that talk to the move so far extreme left by the Democrat party is it scary....all from the last few months....

Have Democrats Pulled Too Far Left? | RealClearPolitics

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/27/op...-far-left.html

Jim Webb: Democratic Party has 'moved way far to the left' | MSNBC

Just last week, one of the party favorites Elizabeth Warren gave her blessing to to Black Lives Matter, a marxist inspired group as if it were the only group looking for justice or as if the Democratic party was the only party that supports those in poverty (conservatives by fact give more money and time to the underprivileged)

Elizabeth Warren just gave the speech that Black Lives Matter activists have been waiting for - The Washington Post

Your party has been taken over by radical left wing groups.....that is nothing but fact.

I understand the problems with conservatives as well, but given the choice I will elect to stay with groups who believe in the constitution, the rule of law and such things.

PLEASE, I do not know you, but you sound like you think you are smart but I am afraid that unsupported claims of superiority do not impress me.

My party has been taken over by radical left wing groups. I am a moderate independent. I have no party! I am going to vote for John Kasich in the Fl. primary, so I am going to be a Republican. Did you listen to John Kasich in the last debate? Every time he spoke not a peep out of the crowd. This is the person with experience in Washington, and running a major state, and no one wants to listen to him. I wonder why?

I asked a lot of questions. You didn't answer any of them. Not one! You ever hear of "guilt by silence". You know what the problem is with the conservatives. How about sharing it with someone not as gifted as you? Since when is asking questions, preaching?

You referred to the same article twice. I guess it was so good it was worth repeating. Come on man! An article written a person that worked for the last three republican administrations, and you don't think that it is going to be one sided.

"Clinton instituted three strikes and you are out, and proposed adding 100,000 police officers." Mass incarnation was a result of what he did. Clinton is admitting the policies have caused problems. Obama is addressing those problem. I will copy and paste Clinton's views now on the next post.

"Obama is more liberal than Clinton on gay rights, religious liberties, abortion rights, drug legalization, and climate control." No kidding. The country has moved on almost all of these items.

"Clinton cut spending, and produced a surplus. Under Obama spending and deficits reached record levels". What shape was the country in when Clinton took office versus Obama took office? If you going to compare people, you have to start on a level playing field. Figures lie, and liars figure. That is exactly what Wehner did played with numbers to support his argument.

What do you think would happen, if you compared any of the Republicans running for congress to President Reagan? They have moved so far to the right that it is scary.

Concerning the Tea Party, they are nothing, but noise. Boehner didn't want to listen to them any more. Ted Cruz is probably the only one in the Senate that they support. Boehner called him a jackass. They are less than 10% in the House. Have anyone of them proposed anything other than repealing ACA 54 times? Boehner asked them for a replacement. Their response according to Boehner was "it's too hard".


The president of the Village's Tea Party wrote an article where she called Obama use of "fast track" as an unthinkable overreach by our current president. It's unconstitutional. Fast track was used by very Republican president, since Reagan. Did the Constitution change when Obama became president?

Concerning Black Lives Matter, they are not Marxists. They are the worst kind of racists. When that lady jumped on stage at a Sander's event, he should have smacked her in the head.

"It has gotten so bad with the move to Socialism, communism and Marxism" That statement is total nonsense. How about supporting that with facts?

Start with explaining how the ACA is a left wing socialist program that has its roots in the Heritage Foundation, and Romneycare! I really would like you to explain that one. According to you I am really stupid, so go into simple detail.

Of course my comments are falling on deaf ears, because you refuse to listen. I am an moderate independent, but everyone that doesn't agree with everything you say is a left wing liberal. No, we know who the problem is here.

This is one of the article concerning Clinton's view of mass jailings.

Bill Clinton says he made mass incarceration issue worse - CNNPolitics.com

Dear Guests: I thought the topic was falling poll numbers but all the chatter has come down to bet my dad can beat up your dad up (ie party politics)

The sad fact in my view has been that our political system needs to rid itself of parasites. What candidate is best suited for that task? The polls mean little now and even at their best reveal the most popular because voters will not take the time to read anything more than tag lines and as a result choose poorly.

It seems that too many on Political Talk argue with the logic like those political talkers on The View or The Talk and that is sad.

The underlying problem is that too many voters won't set party aside and focus on the issues trying to understand the effect such policy will have on this nation. Too many voters treat party like gang members treat their gangs. What happened to individualism in this nation?

We need to come together and the only way that is going to happen is that both sides have to come to some compromise/agreement as to which candidate can bring this country together and back on the path to prosperity an greatness

Personal Best Regards:

Originally Posted by Guest

Get some help, dolt. What was East Germany called? It was the DDR or German Democratic Republic. Was it a democratic system of government? Of course not.

The National Socialist German Workers Party was not Socialist at all. It was a dictatorship with the Tea Party hero of Adolf Hitler at the dictator..

What a stupid statement. You can't refute the correction I made so you attempt an insult. Says a lot about you and your socialist party. The Nazi part was socialist whether you say so or not. Even the name. And as far as attempting to slur by using the Tea Party, good luck. All you are doing is making a fool of yourself. You can't tell anyone what you find wrong with the Tea Party. Why? Because you don't know anything about them or what they stand for.

Like I said before, I am not a member of the TP, but I do agree with almost everything they stand for. So, associate me with the TP all you want, because I enjoy the compliments.

By the way, you really should look up more information on socialism, so that you don't look the fool when spewing your verbal vomit.

Originally Posted by Guest

My party has been taken over by radical left wing groups. I am a moderate independent. I have no party! I am going to vote for John Kasich in the Fl. primary, so I am going to be a Republican. Did you listen to John Kasich in the last debate? Every time he spoke not a peep out of the crowd. This is the person with experience in Washington, and running a major state, and no one wants to listen to him. I wonder why?

I asked a lot of questions. You didn't answer any of them. Not one! You ever hear of "guilt by silence". You know what the problem is with the conservatives. How about sharing it with someone not as gifted as you? Since when is asking questions, preaching?

You referred to the same article twice. I guess it was so good it was worth repeating. Come on man! An article written a person that worked for the last three republican administrations, and you don't think that it is going to be one sided.

"Clinton instituted three strikes and you are out, and proposed adding 100,000 police officers." Mass incarnation was a result of what he did. Clinton is admitting the policies have caused problems. Obama is addressing those problem. I will copy and paste Clinton's views now on the next post.

"Obama is more liberal than Clinton on gay rights, religious liberties, abortion rights, drug legalization, and climate control." No kidding. The country has moved on almost all of these items.

"Clinton cut spending, and produced a surplus. Under Obama spending and deficits reached record levels". What shape was the country in when Clinton took office versus Obama took office? If you going to compare people, you have to start on a level playing field. Figures lie, and liars figure. That is exactly what Wehner did played with numbers to support his argument.

What do you think would happen, if you compared any of the Republicans running for congress to President Reagan? They have moved so far to the right that it is scary.

Concerning the Tea Party, they are nothing, but noise. Boehner didn't want to listen to them any more. Ted Cruz is probably the only one in the Senate that they support. Boehner called him a jackass. They are less than 10% in the House. Have anyone of them proposed anything other than repealing ACA 54 times? Boehner asked them for a replacement. Their response according to Boehner was "it's too hard".


The president of the Village's Tea Party wrote an article where she called Obama use of "fast track" as an unthinkable overreach by our current president. It's unconstitutional. Fast track was used by very Republican president, since Reagan. Did the Constitution change when Obama became president?

Concerning Black Lives Matter, they are not Marxists. They are the worst kind of racists. When that lady jumped on stage at a Sander's event, he should have smacked her in the head.

"It has gotten so bad with the move to Socialism, communism and Marxism" That statement is total nonsense. How about supporting that with facts?

Start with explaining how the ACA is a left wing socialist program that has its roots in the Heritage Foundation, and Romneycare! I really would like you to explain that one. According to you I am really stupid, so go into simple detail.

Of course my comments are falling on deaf ears, because you refuse to listen. I am an moderate independent, but everyone that doesn't agree with everything you say is a left wing liberal. No, we know who the problem is here.

I've liked Kasich from the start, but he is not getting the support he needs to make it to the primary. To be honest with you, I don't think he will make it. It's too bad, because he is so much more experienced than any of the other candidates.

Originally Posted by Guest

Get some help, dolt. What was East Germany called? It was the DDR or German Democratic Republic. Was it a democratic system of government? Of course not.

The National Socialist German Workers Party was not Socialist at all. It was a dictatorship with the Tea Party hero of Adolf Hitler at the dictator..

Actually, the DDR was SOCIALIST, so your argument in without merit. You do realize that you just associated the label "Democratic" with socialism again, right?