Originally Posted by DaleMN

Surprised you didn't say "The Colored One?"

Totally uncalled for.

Originally Posted by actor

Obama sounds to me like a good description of yourself.

Another post totally uncalled for...do you even know him?

Originally Posted by RichieLion

I don't agree with the author on what he considers Obama's great accomplishments at the outset of his article. He credits Obama for the killing of OBL and that's fine as far as it goes, but It was done in a way that leaves me empty of any psychological closure. I don't know how many others feel this way.

Ended what unpopular war? Hello, can anybody tell me? We fighting everywhere we were before and now we've expanded into Libya. Hello?

Gave us Health Care? Don't know about you, but I have health care and I like what I have and don't relish it changing. That goes for the majority of Americans as far as I've read. ObamaCare is widely and wildly unpopular. How does this help him?

To top it all off, do Americans by and large feel that America is in a better place than it was before "The One" assumed power (I mean office)????

I'm just saying.

or so citizens, most of whom work for a living who are uninsured, or the folks who can't get coverage due to a pre-existing condition? I wonder how satisfied they are with the current system? Ever wonder why our healthcare outcomes are poor in comparison to many other industrialized nations, in spite of the fact that percentage-wise we spend a lot more for healthcare?

Originally Posted by actor

or so citizens, most of whom work for a living who are uninsured, or the folks who can't get coverage due to a pre-existing condition? I wonder how satisfied they are with the current system? Ever wonder why our healthcare outcomes are poor in comparison to many other industrialized nations, in spite of the fact that percentage-wise we spend a lot more for healthcare?

Even though you insult people and call them names, I will give you an answer to your tired old talking points. Where in the constitution does it say that the USA Government is responsible for it's citizens health. It says we have the right to pursue our happiness. That means we have to opportunity to steer our future by educating ourselves and seeking our own methods of health care.
Nanny states have proven to be failures. If you do not learn from the past...your future will be doomed.

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

Even though you insult people and call them names, I will give you an answer to your tired old talking points. Where in the constitution does it say that the USA Government is responsible for it's citizens health. It says we have the right to pursue our happiness. That means we have to opportunity to steer our future by educating ourselves and seeking our own methods of health care.
Nanny states have proven to be failures. If you do not learn from the past...your future will be doomed.

grasp the fact that it costs the taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars to pay for the care that is provided to the uninsured, not to mention the tremendous losses to productivity that occur when the healthcare system fails to provide adequate coverage to almost 50 million citizens. Never mind responding. I'm not in the mood to discuss the issue with someone who thinks a country that provides for its' citizenry is a "nanny" state.

Originally Posted by actor

grasp the fact that it costs the taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars to pay for the care that is provided to the uninsured, not to mention the tremendous losses to productivity that occur when the healthcare system fails to provide adequate coverage to almost 50 million citizens. Never mind responding. I'm not in the mood to discuss the issue with someone who thinks a country that provides for its' citizenry is a "nanny" state.

Well, let us know when you are in the mood to talk reason. Are you a male? Actress?

Originally Posted by DaleMN

Surprised you didn't say "The Colored One?"

That was Oprah's obnoxious phrase for him "The One". I have one for you. But as I'm not as vicious as you, I'll keep it to myself.

Originally Posted by actor

or so citizens, most of whom work for a living who are uninsured, or the folks who can't get coverage due to a pre-existing condition? I wonder how satisfied they are with the current system? Ever wonder why our healthcare outcomes are poor in comparison to many other industrialized nations, in spite of the fact that percentage-wise we spend a lot more for healthcare?

Except that you premise is completely flawed and a lie told over and over by all you liberals. 40 Million, my butt. This is a number that includes all the illegals in this country. You want me to pay for their health care plan?

Originally Posted by ceejay

Another post totally uncalled for...do you even know him?

No, he doesn't know me. Apparently the rules here are not very well structured. Personal attacks are welcome, I guess?

Originally Posted by RichieLion

Except that you premise is completely flawed and a lie told over and over by all you liberals. 40 Million, my butt. This is a number that includes all the illegals in this country. You want me to pay for their health care plan?

Socialism is socialism. Call it like it is.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

Except that you premise is completely flawed and a lie told over and over by all you liberals. 40 Million, my butt. This is a number that includes all the illegals in this country. You want me to pay for their health care plan?

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http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/...alth-insurance

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

Well, let us know when you are in the mood to talk reason. Are you a male? Actress?

discussing issues with someone who thinks like you? My seven year old grandson has more understanding of what is going on in the world than you obviously do.

Originally Posted by actor

to.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/...alth-insurance

Numbers don't lie, but the liberals do on this issue, and it's taken at face value by sycophant sheeple.

Amazing how myths get repeated so often and are considered to be true.

Obama doubled the debt? Let's look at the facts - courtesy of a spreadsheet downloaded form the Office of Management and Budget.

If you include Off-Budget receipts and outlays, you get a far different picture.

The deficits for the Bush years (starting 2002 because he didn't take office until 2001 and the 2002 FY starts in October of that year) were:

2002 - $157B
2003 - $377B
2004 - $412B
2005 - $318B
2006 - $248B
2007 - $160B
2008 - $458B
2009 - $1412B (Yes, boys and girls, that has the stimulus package)

So now Obama comes into office in January 2009 and starts with the 2010 FY:

2010 - $1293B
2011 - $1645B (est)
2012 - $1101B (estimated - but it's all conjecture that can change based on what Congress does.

Last year of Bush: $1.4T. Obama? $1.2T and $1.6T estimate.

No, Obama did NOT "double the debt", no matter whether you meant debt or deficit.

Originally Posted by djplong

Amazing how myths get repeated so often and are considered to be true.

Obama doubled the debt? Let's look at the facts - courtesy of a spreadsheet downloaded form the Office of Management and Budget.

If you include Off-Budget receipts and outlays, you get a far different picture.

The deficits for the Bush years (starting 2002 because he didn't take office until 2001 and the 2002 FY starts in October of that year) were:

2002 - $157B
2003 - $377B
2004 - $412B
2005 - $318B
2006 - $248B
2007 - $160B
2008 - $458B
2009 - $1412B (Yes, boys and girls, that has the stimulus package)

So now Obama comes into office in January 2009 and starts with the 2010 FY:

2010 - $1293B
2011 - $1645B (est)
2012 - $1101B (estimated - but it's all conjecture that can change based on what Congress does.

Last year of Bush: $1.4T. Obama? $1.2T and $1.6T estimate.

No, Obama did NOT "double the debt", no matter whether you meant debt or deficit.

The facts are often sooo confusing...particularly when a person's mind is made up to reach a different conclusion than those supported by the facts.