Originally Posted by CMANN

Obamas "service" to this nation as President has been bad for the country. Four more years would be as bad if not worse.

Need I say more?

Vote Obama in '12.

Originally Posted by DaleMN

Vote Obama in '12.

Are you serious???

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

Are you serious???

It's love over substance for some.

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

Are you serious???

Absolutely!!!!

You know, I was surprised at how many czars there were. WHat surprised me even more was that the HUGE increase in 'czars' didn't start with Obama.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...e_branch_czars

This is another piece of evidence that we need a viable 3rd party in this country. You can say I'm "blaming Bush" but my intent is to show that the Republicans are just as bad.

Now, about the bailouts, well, once again, Chrysler has paid back their bailout YEARS early. On top of that, the government is divesting itself of GM stock. Though some complain that too much stock was given 'to the unions that destroyed GM'. Funny how an ESOP (Employee Stock Ownership Plan) is praised in other places because it gives the employees a sense of ownership. I'm thinking that the UAW's ownership stake will keep them a little more sane than in the past. Hopefully the complete WAR of union vs. management can be calmed down. I'm not saying it's going to be like Southwest Airline's relationships with IT'S unions, but we all know there was room for improvement.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

It's love over substance for some.

Boy Howdy!!! ( as GG would say)

Originally Posted by djplong

...we need a viable 3rd party in this country....

Boy, do we ever!

On one hand I'd like to see people like Michael Bloomberg, Chris Christie or even Joe Scarborough throw their hats in the ring as third party candidates. But they know that being President with a Congress that's as dysfunctional and broken as ours has been for several years, would produce nothing more than four years of frustration and ineffectiveness. Without a third party base of people running for Congress as well as POTUS, it's a waste of time.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

I know that. You were praising a post and I was responding to the glaring flaw in the post you praised. Get it now?

You were quoting me not VK. How do we know what you were responding to in the original post if you don't quote that post. I will show you more respect when you start responding in more thoughtful statements that don't sound like FOX News sound bytes. Get that?

Originally Posted by CMANN

Obamas "service" to this nation as President has been bad for the country. Four more years would be as bad if not worse.

Need I say more?

He will have doubled the deficit. He must go.

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

He will have doubled the deficit. He must go.

You have every right to decide who to vote for in 2012. But at least get your reasons correct. The deficit has not doubled during the 30 months of the Obama administration. That's been covered very adequately elsewhere in the forum. Maybe you should read it.

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

You have every right to decide who to vote for in 2012. But at least get your reasons correct. The deficit has not doubled during the 30 months of the Obama administration. That's been covered very adequately elsewhere in the forum. Maybe you should read it.

If he stays in office and on his spending course, he will have doubled it.

Originally Posted by tonyafd

You were quoting me not VK. How do we know what you were responding to in the original post if you don't quote that post. I will show you more respect when you start responding in more thoughtful statements that don't sound like FOX News sound bytes. Get that?

I rarely even watch Fox News, so quit being an dolt. I rarely watch any TV whatsoever. If what you say is true, then Fox News sounds like me. I read and read, and then read some more.

I was responding to the same thing as you were responding to with your praise and pointing out to you the flaw in the post you were praising. Go back and re-read and then go "oooh"

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

You have every right to decide who to vote for in 2012. But at least get your reasons correct. The deficit has not doubled during the 30 months of the Obama administration. That's been covered very adequately elsewhere in the forum. Maybe you should read it.

Well maybe doubling is a bit of an exaggeration, but at it's essence, the statement has real time validity. The deficit has grown more under Obama than any other president and at a more accelerated pace. That's gotta be good enough for anyone to make the assessment villagegolfer has.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

Well maybe doubling is a bit of an exaggeration, but at it's essence, the statement has real time validity. The deficit has grown more under Obama than any other president and at a more accelerated pace. That's gotta be good enough for anyone to make the assessment villagegolfer has.

I won't defend President Obama's attention to the fiscal health of the country. His actions in that regard are pretty indefensible. But I think it's only fair to note that I can't think of another president who took office saddled with the cost of two wars, an economy on life support on his inauguration day, and the tax policy of his predecessor which didn't accomplish it's objectives yet for political reasons couldn't be changed. Unfortunately there's very little time left to fix that stuff before our lenders start treating us like Greece or Ireland. If you thought there were complaints and accusations before, just wait...

Remember, we re-finance about $100 billion in maturing loans every week. Unless there's someone there to buy new bonds or bills to replace those that are coming due, we'll get spending cuts all right. Big time and real fast!

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

He will have doubled the deficit. He must go.

Sorry, the facts don't back that up.

Bush's last deficit was $1.4T.
Obama's first deficit was $1.3T (the next is projected at $1.6T)

You are either repeating misinformation or lying. I would like to think you've been led to believe that bush's last defict was NOT $1.4T but you can go the to the Office of Management and Budget and look it up.