I believe the ongoing referral, argument, assumption that blacks will always vote for blacks is demeaning to those blacks who can and do think for themselves and not as alleged blindly by the color of one's skin.

The notion being presented is that no matter how bad a president Obama has been....no matter that he has not delivered even close to what he promised in 2008....no matter what they disagree with Obama on....that they will buy his schtick again and accept and vote for him agian just because he is black??

I have said it before and will say it again; Obama will not carry the same blind following he got in 2008.....he will no doubt get a majority....but the minority vote (pun intended both ways) could be enough to not re-elect him.....AND THAT IS WHY THEY KEEP SAYING IT SO OFTEN....blacks will vote for blacks no matter what....because they damn well know this time around many won't.

btk

Originally Posted by Shimpy

He could be exposed and proven as a cereal killer and rapist and would still get the black vote.

Does that mean he is a serial killer of cereal? Is that a crime? Inquiring minds would like to know.

Originally Posted by Shimpy

He could be exposed and proven as a cereal killer and rapist and would still get the black vote.

And you don't have the same passion for Mitt Romney?

Originally Posted by janmcn

And you don't have the same passion for Mitt Romney?

If you think that, this proves that you know nothing about conservative Americans, and that's explains it all to anybody who's paying attention, as to the tenor of your political remarks.

Demogrphics of the past Presidential election will remain about the same for this election. With all of those demographics of blacks, Hispanics, educated women, registered Democrats, and registered Independents, Romney can not hope for a victory. Santorum would be blown out of the water, Newt is a laughing stock, and Paul is just there for the ride.

If the Dumbpublicans put up someone like Alan West, they will have shot themself in the foot with their own gun.

Well, back on dry land tomorrow and able to post easier. Great cruise on Celebrity! I highly recommend it to everyone.

The question Van Jones was asked on MSNBC was about Obama's base. Jones was asked if Obama came out in favor of gay marriage, would he lose votes from his black supporters.


Jones can laugh and say anything he wants without any relevant follow-up questions, but recent polls show support for gay marriage isn't that great among blacks in America. I suppose that is one reason Obama has stayed on the fence and never come out in support of gay marriage in a manner that would please the LGBTQ groups.

The question from Alex Witt was, "Let's talk a little bit about the base though. And Van, when you talk about the President's position on some of this stuff, I mean does he lose, if you talk about black voters versus, um, you know, Progressive voters; Democrats, the idea of driving a wedge. Do you think President Obama would some of the black vote if he did in fact come out in support of gay marriage?"

Jones' response: "I think if President Obama came out as gay he wouldn't lose the black vote. President Obama isn't going to lose the Black vote no matter what he does. I don't understand this particular uh-uh-uh stategy on the...Certainly our numbers are a little bit more because we are more religious as a community. A little bit softer on some of this stuff. But it's not a hardcore issue for that many African-Americans..."

can't say we missed the name calling, caustic word maker upper.

btk

i personally resent the term "educated women" in buggyone's post, implying that only dumb women vote republican...i am very well educated, speak four languages and have lived in europe more than once. this is typical of the arrogant liberal "dream-thinking" that only dumb people would disagree with them...wake up and smell the coffee...most people with even a little intelligence are seeing through obama's glib rhetoric. shouldn't you?

just watched a wonderful video of thomas sowell, a truly amazing black scholar, speaking about obama before the election...it was eerie how hauntingly he predicted obama's dangerous vision for this country and his radical ideology. maybe you can find it on youtube....

chachacha just keep in mind the source. His/her goal is to bait as long and as loud and as possible usually devoid of substance. The consistency of the posts make it easy to ignore since the name calling usually overwhelms any substance that MIGHT be in their post.

btk

Couldn't agree with you more, chachacha. I have a Master's Degree and have also lived in Europe, plus the Far East. You have me on the languages though. I can speak reasonable English, on a good day, and Latin darn near killd me. LOL

If you look at statistics, the majority of college educated women vote Democrat. That is not to say 100% of college educated women will vote Democrat - just as it is not to say 100% of any group will vote for a certain candidate. Just the majority is what I meant. You can look up that fact for yourself and find out I speak the truth.

Really, Buggy? I'd love to see those stats.


"Based on data from the United States Census and renowned Cook Partisan Voting Index (CPVI), congressional districts with more educated residents are more likely to pledge their electoral votes to Republican presidential candidates. Conversely, congressional districts with less educated residents are more likely to pledge their electoral votes to Democratic presidential candidates."...

Presidential Politics: More Educated Vote Republican - Yahoo! Voices - voices.yahoo.com

From your friend Wikipedia:

..."Self-identified Republicans are significantly more likely than Democrats to have 4-year college degrees."...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republi...(United_States)

Just to restate the premise of this thread.....it is racist to criticize the President but not racist to vote for him because he is black ?????

Is it not racist to vote for or against someone based on his skin color ?

Palin Draws Limited Support Among College-Educated Republicans - NYTimes.com

Just one of many articles.

Originally Posted by Bucco

Just to restate the premise of this thread.....it is racist to criticize the President but not racist to vote for him because he is black ?????

Is it not racist to vote for or against someone based on his skin color ?

Why would any African American, hispanic, woman, or gay and lesbian vote for the republican agenda? Would it be the tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires paid for by cutting all discretionary spending, the pledge to defund Planned Parenthood, the 98% of house republicans who voted no on the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009, the no vote on the Violence Against Women Act, the Blunt-Rubio Amendment, that failed in the senate, but would have allowed women's bosses to decide what health care women would receive?

Or would it be the 1100 bills proposed in 2011 by state legislatures across the country regulating women's health care and the state-mandated vaginal ultrasounds passed by many states?

Or would it be the pledge to roll back Don't Ask, Don't Tell? Or the pledge to rescind the Dream Act, if passed?

It doesn't matter if President Obama is black, brown, white, yellow or pink. He is on the right side of the issues, republicans are not.