Originally Posted by Guest

So, you know without a doubt that he knew there were NO WMDs in Iraq? He knew this when he testified at the UN? If he did not know this to be false and he did not intend to deceive, it is not a lie. Maybe you are lying.

Thousands of civilians were found buried in mass graves in Iraq. They died from exposure to gas. Apparently, you liberals do not understand what WMD stands for. You can continue to spread the myth that someone lied, or you can look at the facts and make a logical deduction. If you wish to allow others to lead you around, you are nothing more than a slave to the powers that be.

You KNOW that without a doubt? How? You were there when the bodies were found? You followed them to where they were tested for gas exposure?

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Hey slave...

Originally Posted by Guest

I stand with the group that supports the rule of law.

I stand with the group that supports the belief that because we are a nation of laws NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW.

I stand with the group that supports due process for everyone.

I stand with the group that hs a disdain for political cronyism.

I stand with the group that has a disdain for corruption

I stand with the group that believes in strict application of the US Constitution

I stand with the group that supports the intent of separation of powers

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So...you're against the D and R parties...good...now STOP voting for ANY of them.

Originally Posted by Guest

You KNOW that without a doubt? How? You were there when the bodies were found? You followed them to where they were tested for gas exposure?

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Hey slave...



So...you're against the D and R parties...good...now STOP voting for ANY of them.

YES, I was there when they found the bodies(Some of them. There were thousands found in mass graves). NO I was not there when they tested them.

No, I was not there when they created the Constitution, so I will have to take their word for it as to who created it.
No, I was not in a lot of places and have to take someone else's word for it.

But, I do not believe that Powell purposely lied to us regarding their being WMDs in Iraq. If he received faulty intelligence (IF) then he did not lie. A lie requires the element of an intent to deceive.

Some folks on here distort and pervert the English language. I am no expert, but I do know how to use the dictionary. Too bad, many on here would rather misuse words radically in an attempt to "prove" their point of view.

But, I do not believe that Powell purposely lied to us regarding their being WMDs in Iraq. If he received faulty intelligence (IF) then he did not lie. A lie requires the element of an intent to deceive.

The operative words are "did not find". what we will never know is if they were there, did Saddam move them across the border to Syria?

Two WSJ articles over the years report that that is what some believe and point to events that would validate such an event.

The saddest thing about the "WMD"issue is it has become totally political and hence creates more mistrust and less a motivation to determine the how and the why, and consequences that an active military engagement can least afford

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Originally Posted by Guest

I stand with the group that supports the rule of law.

I stand with the group that supports the belief that because we are a nation of laws NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW.

I stand with the group that supports due process for everyone.

I stand with the group that hs a disdain for political cronyism.

I stand with the group that has a disdain for corruption

I stand with the group that believes in strict application of the US Constitution



I stand with the group that supports the intent of separation of powers

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Then you must really hate trump and his administration.

Originally Posted by Guest

YES, I was there when they found the bodies(Some of them. There were thousands found in mass graves). NO I was not there when they tested them.

No, I was not there when they created the Constitution, so I will have to take their word for it as to who created it.

No, I was not in a lot of places and have to take someone else's word for it.

But, I do not believe that Powell purposely lied to us regarding their being WMDs in Iraq. If he received faulty intelligence (IF) then he did not lie. A lie requires the element of an intent to deceive.

Some folks on here distort and pervert the English language. I am no expert, but I do know how to use the dictionary. Too bad, many on here would rather misuse words radically in an attempt to "prove" their point of view.

So you don't KNOW how they died. There are mass graves all over the middle east...they kill each other...just like the inner city minorities...they're violent...uncivilized.

A bunch of decomposed bodies and a signed original document are two different things.

Now you're getting it...you had to take someone elses word for it...you rely on "his-story" which is OFTEN wrong. "His-story" is mostly propaganda.

And I DO believe he purposely lied...to get us into a war. I also believe they let Pearl Harbor happen to get us into WWII. The Gulf on Tonkin was a lie to get us into Vietnam. They do the SAME THING over and over...to get us involved in wars.

Are you accusing me of "misusing" words?

Originally Posted by Guest

But, I do not believe that Powell purposely lied to us regarding their being WMDs in Iraq. If he received faulty intelligence (IF) then he did not lie. A lie requires the element of an intent to deceive.

The operative words are "did not find". what we will never know is if they were there, did Saddam move them across the border to Syria?

Two WSJ articles over the years report that that is what some believe and point to events that would validate such an event.

The saddest thing about the "WMD"issue is it has become totally political and hence creates more mistrust and less a motivation to determine the how and the why, and consequences that an active military engagement can least afford

Personal Best Regards:

Yes...we will never know because nothing was found. Don't you think our surveillance would have seen the WMDs being ferried out of the country? Don't you think we'd have seen them burying them? Or is out intelligence gathering abilities also a lie?

The saddest thing about it...is it was all a lie to get us into a ME war.

Originally Posted by Guest

So you don't KNOW how they died. There are mass graves all over the middle east...they kill each other...just like the inner city minorities...they're violent...uncivilized.

A bunch of decomposed bodies and a signed original document are two different things.

Now you're getting it...you had to take someone elses word for it...you rely on "his-story" which is OFTEN wrong. "His-story" is mostly propaganda.

And I DO believe he purposely lied...to get us into a war. I also believe they let Pearl Harbor happen to get us into WWII. The Gulf on Tonkin was a lie to get us into Vietnam. They do the SAME THING over and over...to get us involved in wars.

Are you accusing me of "misusing" words?



Yes...we will never know because nothing was found. Don't you think our surveillance would have seen the WMDs being ferried out of the country? Don't you think we'd have seen them burying them? Or is out intelligence gathering abilities also a lie?

The saddest thing about it...is it was all a lie to get us into a ME war.

Iraq had managed to bury airplanes in the dessert that was never detected by our intelligence. exactly how many trucks do you believe it would take to move WMD? the WSJ reported 2.

Stop basing your opinion on politics and look at logistics

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Originally Posted by Guest

Then you must really hate trump and his administration.

There you go again with a narrow focus. My comments were about ANYONE WHO VIOLATES THE LAW.

That is the problem in today's America. It isn't just simply about right or wrong. It's about Democrats are dishonest Republican are dishonest Trump lies. .... We can't get past the labels and that leads to disastrous and ineffective results.

Too many of us are caught up in the political narrative we have lost all objectivity.

A crook is a crook. a liar is a lair. it doesn't matter what sex, race political party socio-economic group. Geezzz

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Originally Posted by Guest

There you go again with a narrow focus. My comments were about ANYONE WHO VIOLATES THE LAW.

That is the problem in today's America. It isn't just simply about right or wrong. It's about Democrats are dishonest Republican are dishonest Trump lies. .... We can't get past the labels and that leads to disastrous and ineffective results.

Too many of us are caught up in the political narrative we have lost all objectivity.

A crook is a crook. a liar is a lair. it doesn't matter what sex, race political party socio-economic group. Geezzz

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You KNOW this...and yet you keep voting for them?

Why?

Because they've convinced you that "their guy" is the ONLY option?