Originally Posted by Guest

No need to research as I am using actual experience.
I can honestly say that since my wife and I have become medicare eligble we have not had to reach in our pockets for any payments except for a minor (less than $10 Rx copay).

That is over a 15 year period.
Cancer surgery and all post surgery radiation treatments.
Major intestinal surgery.
Cataracts.
Knee repair.

All the lab work including periodic blood testing, MRI, cat scans, etc.

Physical therapy.

Just to name afew.

Having to not pay one dollar for medical events in an aging life is far from crap.
Having complete coverage, 100% of ANY medical need.
And being a user of traditional Medicare with a supplement we are not restricted to any doctor, group of doctors or specialists or hospitals anywhere in the world.

To each his own, however, there has to be some underlying reason to label Medicare coverage as "crap" and that it is insufficient.

Traditional Medicare with SUPPLEMENT, so it is not all covered by Medicare is it?

I indicated having standard medicare and a suplement.

Between the two everything has been covered.

So my bubble is not burst at all. Totally satisfied that ALL the health care needs are met with 100% satisfaction.

And the supplement is significantly less than what has been stated as paying for non medicare, non crap coverage.

I do not know of anybody that chooses standard medicare that does not also have a supplental policy.

Different strokes for different folks.

Originally Posted by Guest

I indicated having standard medicare and a suplement.

Between the two everything has been covered.

So my bubble is not burst at all. Totally satisfied that ALL the health care needs are met with 100% satisfaction.

And the supplement is significantly less than what has been stated as paying for non medicare, non crap coverage.

I do not know of anybody that chooses standard medicare that does not also have a supplental policy.

Different strokes for different folks.

You stated that you pay nothing out of pocket,
but that is not true, you pay a premium for your supplement,
and you paid for Medicare for years, so you are paying plenty!
You got a weird way of assessing your costs!

Originally Posted by Guest

Obamacare is collapsing. Insurers pulling out. Cost is astronomical. .......Clinton needs Sanders supporters....Sanders wants everyone on Medicare. 2+2= 4....if you are not satisfied with your Medicare now perhaps it will be better for you when you share it with children of illegal aliens and everyone else....except Congress that is....Elect Clintons and you will find out.

And the alternative offered by Mr Trump is...........

Originally Posted by Guest

And the alternative offered by Mr Trump is...........

ANYTHING else

Originally Posted by Guest

And the alternative offered by Mr Trump is...........

Why don't you visit Trumps website and see what he proposes!
It's all there!

Originally Posted by Guest

Why don't you visit Trumps website and see what he proposes!
It's all there!

I've read Trump's website. What part of Congress is going to agree with much of anything this guy has proposed?

Originally Posted by Guest

I've read Trump's website. What part of Congress is going to agree with much of anything this guy has proposed?

Obamacare is collapsing, so it has to go or be
drastically revised, so it coincides with reality.
But reality is so hard for liberals to accept!
We are running out or other people's $$$

Originally Posted by Guest

I've read Trump's website. What part of Congress is going to agree with much of anything this guy has proposed?

You asked what Trump offered, and he has offered
an alternative, but you would rather keep a collapsing program, that does nothing to reduce costs or make healthcare better!

Originally Posted by Guest

You stated that you pay nothing out of pocket,
but that is not true, you pay a premium for your supplement,
and you paid for Medicare for years, so you are paying plenty!
You got a weird way of assessing your costs!

Excuse me, I also pay no premium for my suppliment. I have a co-payment, $ 20 for doctor, $30 for specialists. That, in my opinion, is peanuts. Maybe you should look into other plans. I am very happy with mine.

Medicare payment deductions were 1 percent. What was your salary 50 years ago?

Originally Posted by Guest

Excuse me, I also pay no premium for my suppliment. I have a co-payment, $ 20 for doctor, $30 for specialists. That, in my opinion, is peanuts. Maybe you should look into other plans. I am very happy with mine.

Medicare payment deductions were 1 percent. What was your salary 50 years ago?

Somebody pays the premium for your supplement and now you do say you have co-pays.
It takes awhile to get the whole story from you!
I paid Medicare deductions for 40 plus years and
they weren't just 1% You exaggerate a lot!

Originally Posted by Guest

Somebody pays the premium for your supplement and now you do say you have co-pays.
It takes awhile to get the whole story from you!
I paid Medicare deductions for 40 plus years and
they weren't just 1% You exaggerate a lot!

I am a different "guest", that you attacked earlier. Just Google medicare deductions. 1percent.

Originally Posted by Guest

Why don't you visit Trumps website and see what he proposes!
It's all there!

I visit that site often.

He has NOT even come close to offering a plan. He says Congress should come up with a plan.

He offers a few changes already in bill form in congress, which the way it looks he will cause the GOP to lose.

Don't get sucked up in platitudes.

This is not "The Apprentice"...

Originally Posted by Guest

I visit that site often.

He has NOT even come close to offering a plan. He says Congress should come up with a plan.

He offers a few changes already in bill form in congress, which the way it looks he will cause the GOP to lose.

Don't get sucked up in platitudes.

This is not "The Apprentice"...

That is precisely why we need Trump, and to get rid of a lot of Democrats,
since America can no longer afford them.
And that means we can't afford them weakening our
nations economy and security!

Originally Posted by Guest

I'll take that deal. But before you agree, realize I've paid about 300K into it, which invested at the average market return of 8% would double every 9 years. So take the midpoint, 150K, and multiply by 16 for a total return of 2.4 million. Since Medicare pays 80% of approved charges, that's an even 3 million in charges. Still want to make the deal??????

If you indeed paid over 300K into Medicare you were either grossly over paid or you had a poor accountant. If you were a brain surgeon please disregard this post.