http://www.heritage.org/2009/07/21/m...th-house-bill/

Yes indeed.

However, for some it would seem more like.

Go figure...

Originally Posted by Ooper

That video is so right on! Every point that was made has been documented. For you doubters... just ask anybody from Canada!

You can ask me. I'm an "anybody" from Canada with a home in The Villages.

The Canadian Health Care System is fabulous. Not perfect, but I feel I'm blessed to have access to excellent and free health care. Most of the negative c*ap written here about the Canadian system is untrue.

I never have a problem getting the care or services I require .. from MRIs to Bone Density tests to Ultrasound, etc. Five years ago I was critically ill (I'm fine now). I was hospitalized for three months. I had the finest specialists and surgeons taking care of me, free.

I'm not saying the U.S. should have socialized medicine. I think a recession is a poor time to implement such a huge undertaking. But socialized medicine is working in Canada. Yes, we pay for our system with higher taxes. No argument there. But please don't denigrate the Canadian system unless you know what you're yaking about.

and reflects, at least in this particular incident, what happens whn Obama goes off TOTUS. The real Obama starts to show through. Not saying good, bad or indifferent...it is more real than the canned, usual prepared Obama rhetoric.

One would think on this issue there would have been some anticipation? Some preparation! Does it present an attitude?

I also found the readers comments that follow the article to be very interesting. Where were the supporting commentaries?
Hmmmmnnnn. Where are the staunch supporters of Obama and what do they have to offer in support of their man's health care proposal?

Another article this morning stated that the program would/could not go into effect until around 2018. And where will Obama be in 2018? Ten years to get the infrastructure developed, written and implemented.
We went to the moon in less time than that.
There was commentary against drilling for oil in the US to stave of foreign oil...the rhetoric from the administration was that was too long range and far out to be practical.....THE TIME FRAME BEING CRITICIZED WAS 10 YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If this legislation should happen to go forward then we will most certainly be a nation truly on a path to certain decline. With no checks and balances we should be very concerned.

As another aside has anybody seen or heard from their representatives about the impact on those of us on Medicare and supplemental insurance?

btk

Does this count as anyone in Canada?

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Originally Posted by dklassen

Does this count as anyone in Canada?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2jijuj1ysw

Thanks for the video DK. Pajama TV is an excellent source of facts and entertainment. They are affiliated with my favorite site, Instapundit.

Originally Posted by ejp52

http://www.heritage.org/2009/07/21/m...th-house-bill/

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...care_bill.html

Originally Posted by Barefoot

You can ask me. I'm an "anybody" from Canada with a home in The Villages.

The Canadian Health Care System is fabulous. Not perfect, but I feel I'm blessed to have access to excellent and free health care. Most of the negative c*ap written here about the Canadian system is untrue.

I never have a problem getting the care or services I require .. from MRIs to Bone Density tests to Ultrasound, etc. Five years ago I was critically ill (I'm fine now). I was hospitalized for three months. I had the finest specialists and surgeons taking care of me, free.

I'm not saying the U.S. should have socialized medicine. I think a recession is a poor time to implement such a huge undertaking. But socialized medicine is working in Canada. Yes, we pay for our system with higher taxes. No argument there. But please don't denigrate the Canadian system unless you know what you're yaking about.

Did any of you even hear what this lady had to say??? Guess you're too busy Obama Bashing.

This guy is worth listening.

http://www.youtube.com/v/iQQLGnD5baI..._embedded&fs=1

http://www.ajc.com/health/democrats-...lth-96628.html

Originally Posted by Barefoot

You can ask me. I'm an "anybody" from Canada with a home in The Villages.

The Canadian Health Care System is fabulous. Not perfect, but I feel I'm blessed to have access to excellent and free health care. Most of the negative c*ap written here about the Canadian system is untrue.

I never have a problem getting the care or services I require .. from MRIs to Bone Density tests to Ultrasound, etc. Five years ago I was critically ill (I'm fine now). I was hospitalized for three months. I had the finest specialists and surgeons taking care of me, free.

I'm not saying the U.S. should have socialized medicine. I think a recession is a poor time to implement such a huge undertaking. But socialized medicine is working in Canada. Yes, we pay for our system with higher taxes. No argument there. But please don't denigrate the Canadian system unless you know what you're yaking about.

I get the same feedback whenever I golf with a Canadian.

Did any of you even hear what this lady had to say??? Guess you're too busy Obama Bashing.

It's irrelevant. So what. I'm glad she's happy and received good care in her case. Many in Canada think their health care stinks. Both my wife and I have received stellar health care right hear in in the U.S.A and our premiums have always been affordable and the service quick for anything we needed.

Do you listen to what people have to say or do you only operate on blind Obama faith?

Unlike yourself do you really expect people just to sign on the dotted line without reading what's in the contract? People are reading it and they DON'T LIKE IT.

Hell, even Obama doesn't know what's in the contract. No different than all the pork and stimulus spending. Don't read, just sign here.

Maybe that's ok for some of you but not for me and thank God not for others.

Originally Posted by Barefoot

You can ask me. I'm an "anybody" from Canada with a home in The Villages.

The Canadian Health Care System is fabulous. Not perfect, but I feel I'm blessed to have access to excellent and free health care. Most of the negative c*ap written here about the Canadian system is untrue.

I never have a problem getting the care or services I require .. from MRIs to Bone Density tests to Ultrasound, etc. Five years ago I was critically ill (I'm fine now). I was hospitalized for three months. I had the finest specialists and surgeons taking care of me, free.

I'm not saying the U.S. should have socialized medicine. I think a recession is a poor time to implement such a huge undertaking. But socialized medicine is working in Canada. Yes, we pay for our system with higher taxes. No argument there. But please don't denigrate the Canadian system unless you know what you're yaking about.

And the system may be the greatest thing since sliced bread in the right set of circumstances.

Let's not forget that Canada's total population is approximately 5 million less than California's and approximately 10% of the USA's. Canada and the USA are within 0.3% of the same land mass size, with over 80% of Canada's population within 100 miles of the Canada/USA border.

So, an effort in the USA to mirror Canada's social medicine system would immediately involve setting up a structure at least ten times larger than Canada's. Such an undertaking would be monstrous and not happen overnight. In fact, it may take at least as long as Canada took (1946-1961), as Canada started the system one-province-at-a-time. The logic of that is self-evident, as each province was able to learn from the successes and failures of the previous province, making the system more efficient each time. In a comparable population setting, it would be like each California county establishing a medical care system one-at-a-time, with the whole state eventually tied together.

So, do we really think we are smarter, better capable, and more efficient than our Northern Neighbors that we can just set up such a system nationally from the get-go and have it work even half-right? Common sense says start off with a small state (e.g., one of the Dakota's, Rhode Island, etc.) based on state desire to be the pilot program, give them grant money to make it work, and then expand the network state-by-state if this is the type of care we want. From a program management standpoint, anything else is doomed to be fraught with cost overruns, fraud and mismanagement. As lives are at stake, doesn't it make more sense that if we really do this, we learn from how others have done it and emulate what was considered successful?

If it took Canada 15 years to set up such a program to handle a population 90% smaller than the USA's, what makes us think we can do it with the stroke of a federal pen and the "wisdom" of Congress? Talk about arrogance!

Haven't we in fact already tried it in one state?

Mass. healthcare reform is failing us.

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ed...is_failing_us/

It really goes back to one simple FACT.

Social Security is bankrupt.
Medicare is bankrupt.
The government itself is basically bankrupt.
Freddie and Fannie are a total disaster.
Our public schools, most of them are a total disaster.
Mass. healthcare reform is a disaster.
The list goes on and on.

So tell me folks. What on God’s green earth makes you think government can effectively improve on and run our healthcare system?

Add cap-n-tax to this mess and you have an epic financial disaster for all but the most rich in this country. And when we go after what they have left they will simply hunker down and sit on their money. That means less jobs. At almost 10% unemployment and still climbing are less jobs really a good thing?

Think people think.