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Originally Posted by DaleMN

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How does response contribute to civil discourse? Was this necessary?

Downright amazing that FOX Noise can get people so worked up over their lies. I remember a great class I took called "Propaganda and Public Opinion". It told of classic propaganda techniques. One is the Half-Truth". The one that works best is The Big Lie. FOX Noise has these techniques down perfect.

There seems to be very little civil or coherent discourse from the left these days, and I see that as a very good thing. Because the left has not a coherent argument to provide. It's all geared to just the attempted destruction of their opponent.

Tells me I have little to worry about in November 2012.

As for all the "ignore mania" happening on this forum; I won't be joining that trend. I don't fear the rising insanity of the left, but take comfort in it. The adults will prevail on this forum and in the coming elections.

Originally Posted by buggyone

Downright amazing that FOX Noise can get people so worked up over their lies. I remember a great class I took called "Propaganda and Public Opinion". It told of classic propaganda techniques. One is the Half-Truth". The one that works best is The Big Lie. FOX Noise has these techniques down perfect.

Yup, MSNBC cannot hold a candle to them.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

There seems to be very little civil or coherent discourse from the left these days, and I see that as a very good thing. Because the left has not a coherent argument to provide. It's all geared to just the attempted destruction of their opponent.

Tells me I have little to worry about in November 2012.

As for all the "ignore mania" happening on this forum; I won't be joining that trend. I don't fear the rising insanity of the left, but take comfort in it. The adults will prevail on this forum and in the coming elections.

It reminds me of the little children that cover their ears with their hands when they don't want to hear an opinion other then their own. If they don't hear it, it don't exist. Classic case of immaturity. Or is it denial?

Would it be totally insane to me to think that we are being invaded by Alinskyites?

Thanks for the welcomes!

I don't know and don't care about any drama that is/was here before I came along. I most likely won't be giving a crap about any future drama either. I left 6th grade a good time ago.

If anyone thinks I have been here before or whatever is certainly allowed to do so. You will be wrong. I came here roughly a month or so ago after being redirected for a restaurant review on Yelp!.

I find it funny that someone posts something so typical far-right loony about Obama, yet when someone posts a differing opinion the rabid dogs jump in for the kill. Anyone liberal, progressive, educated, and with half a brain knows how the odds stack against them on this forum. That kool-aid is powerful stuff!

Hey fella, why do I have to "have a problem? I know this is shocking, but not everyone believes like you do about stuff. It's been happening and will continue happening. Get over it! You got over women wearing pants and guys with long hair. You will be ok. I mean, did you expect this board to go like afternoon tea at grandma's house? When has it ever when it comes to politics? Maybe back when our politicians actually CARED about Americans.

Anyway, I'm just voicing my opinion like everyone else. We are still able to do that right? I haven't been keeping up-to-date on what the conservatives were denying people this week.

Vile? LOL.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

There seems to be very little civil or coherent discourse from the left these days, and I see that as a very good thing. Because the left has not a coherent argument to provide. It's all geared to just the attempted destruction of their opponent.

Tells me I have little to worry about in November 2012.

As for all the "ignore mania" happening on this forum; I won't be joining that trend. I don't fear the rising insanity of the left, but take comfort in it. The adults will prevail on this forum and in the coming elections.

Wow. Just wow. You ask me what my problem is yet you never seem to be able to make a post with out some sort of juvenile jab at either Obama or the left. I guess the adults will win. I had a vision with a pot and a kettle but I just can't...

Originally Posted by bobboberton

Wow. Just wow. You ask me what my problem is yet you never seem to be able to make a post with out some sort of juvenile jab at either Obama or the left. I guess the adults will win. I had a vision with a pot and a kettle but I just can't...

You prove my point over and over, Lou. You haven't changed a bit. Welcome back.

"Anyone liberal, progressive, educated, and with half a brain knows how the odds stack against them on this forum."

Add "arrogant" and you'd have the reason why.

Originally Posted by bobboberton

Do you sit around all day in fear that a homeless man is going to steal your stuff, a black man is going to mug you, a gay man is going to rape you, and cry because you think all Hispanics are here illegally and gonna get what's yours?

Is this your idea of civil discourse. This diatribe that was prompted by......what? Because I don't support or admire Obama? There's never been a post on TOTV that hinted at any of the crap in your above quote until your mind spewed it out.

You say you're out of 6th grade? Read your crazy unprovoked words again, and tell us again about how you want "civil discourse". What hypocrisy.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

But DJ; if I reject the source of your "debunking"; that is my prerogative. If you want to take whatever is printed in PolitiFact as gospel; fine with me. I reject their content and so the premise of this post of yours is lost on me. I hope you understand what I am getting at here.

I think PolitiFact is spinning a lie for political purposes.

Just to clarify...

I can understand if your opinion is that Politifact is partisan. In *my* opinion, they've done enough digs at Obama to maintain credibility with me.

What I'm a little unclear on is the stuff that Politifact quoted. They went to the actual pages of the bill to explain EXACTLY where the guy on Fox News (who was subsequently quoted by Victoria Jackson) got his facts wrong.

I mean, yes, there are people out there that if they told me the sky was blue, I'd look up. But the fact that Politifact can call Obama on his broken promises tells me that they're not into hyperpartisanship.

Are you saying you don't believe the text of the bill that clearly describes the Ready Reserve for what it is (and it's as much a private army as is the Salvation Army) - or that you don't believe Politifact is pointing people at the actual bill?

if you don't agree it must be the source thats wrong. Just more conservative double talk. They would rather believe in some bogus army nonsense,really anything that dispariges this President.

Richie,

you are absolutely right (no pun intended). You have nothing to worry about in the elections of 2012. The Democrats will prevail with President Obama again and we do not have to worry that the USA will go back to the days of Bush and Cheney.