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I guess the bottom line here is: do you trust Pres. Obama?

Originally Posted by CMANN

I guess the bottom line here is: do you trust Pres. Obama?

B. Hussein Obama?

Yes, I do. I trust him a lot more than I ever trusted G. Walker Bush. Evidently, the American voters did not trust Republicans after G. Walker Bush.

Originally Posted by buggyone

Yes, I do. I trust him a lot more than I ever trusted G. Walker Bush. Evidently, the American voters did not trust Republicans after G. Walker Bush.

I trust B. Hussein Obama to bring the United States economy to it's knees.

Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica

Oh, but if it on the enternet then it has to be true. Just like I won the Canadan Lotto last week. All I need to do is send them $250.00 processing fee and I will get millions of Canadan Dollars. Believe me the check IS NOT in the mail.

So, by the same token, if someone says it's on Fox News, it HAS to be true?

When the claims buy the guy on Fox were checked, they were found to be wild misinterpretations. If I wanted to be charitable, I could imagine how the guy could have easily made such a misinterpretation based on some of the text in that very thick document.

But then you get a 'celebrity' like Victoria Jackson repeating the misinterpretation as if it were gospel.

Well, when a democratic congress passes a bill that is thousands of pages and no one has read it, there could be all kinds of hidden or misunderstood provisions.

Remember Pelosi saying that we have to pass the bill so we could see what is in it. Hope and Change and a new transparency. My goodness!!!!!

Oh I know - it was definitely a sleeping pill on paper.

But when someone makes a claim and it is debunked, continuing to assert that claim is, basically, lying. It's like Jennifer McCarthy and her anti-vaccination crusade (based on a single study of only *16* kids that was proven to be completely fraudulent). It doesn't do someone's position any favors to base their opposition on myth. There are a lot more substantive things you can base an opposition to Obama's bill on (like it being corporate welfare for health insurance companies).

Originally Posted by djplong

Oh I know - it was definitely a sleeping pill on paper.

But when someone makes a claim and it is debunked, continuing to assert that claim is, basically, lying. It's like Jennifer McCarthy and her anti-vaccination crusade (based on a single study of only *16* kids that was proven to be completely fraudulent). It doesn't do someone's position any favors to base their opposition on myth. There are a lot more substantive things you can base an opposition to Obama's bill on (like it being corporate welfare for health insurance companies).

But DJ; if I reject the source of your "debunking"; that is my prerogative. If you want to take whatever is printed in PolitiFact as gospel; fine with me. I reject their content and so the premise of this post of yours is lost on me. I hope you understand what I am getting at here.

I think PolitiFact is spinning a lie for political purposes.

This is nothing. Americans should be more worried about the far-right's conservative christian army. They are a lot more violent and we all know violence AND b*tsh*t crazy can never lead to anything good.

Too late, dubya did THAT years a go.

Originally Posted by bobboberton

This is nothing. Americans should be more worried about the far-right's conservative christian army. They are a lot more violent and we all know violence AND b*tsh*t crazy can never lead to anything good.

What conservative christian army? A violent, crazy conservative christian army? What are you smoking?.

Originally Posted by bobboberton

Too late, dubya did THAT years a go.

You have 5 posts. How did you get off the probation period so fast. I can see that political will be much better off.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

What conservative christian army? A violent, crazy conservative christian army? What are you smoking?.

What Obama army? Conservatives have never been clear on this... Is it a Communist army or a Muslim army?

Yes, it does sound far-fetched doesn't it? Ninety-nine of the tinfoil hat "anti-Obama" conspiracy theories sound just as ridiculous. I'm just sayin...

The only thing worth smoking.

Originally Posted by bobboberton

What Obama army? Conservatives have never been clear on this... Is it a Communist army or a Muslim army?

Yes, it does sound far-fetched doesn't it? Ninety-nine of the tinfoil hat "anti-Obama" conspiracy theories sound just as ridiculous. I'm just sayin...

The only thing worth smoking.

Doesn't answer my question, but I already knew you didn't have one. Conspiracy theory? It's in the ObamaCare bill. I don't have to make things up.