Originally Posted by djplong

Just to clarify...

I can understand if your opinion is that Politifact is partisan. In *my* opinion, they've done enough digs at Obama to maintain credibility with me.

What I'm a little unclear on is the stuff that Politifact quoted. They went to the actual pages of the bill to explain EXACTLY where the guy on Fox News (who was subsequently quoted by Victoria Jackson) got his facts wrong.

I mean, yes, there are people out there that if they told me the sky was blue, I'd look up. But the fact that Politifact can call Obama on his broken promises tells me that they're not into hyperpartisanship.

Are you saying you don't believe the text of the bill that clearly describes the Ready Reserve for what it is (and it's as much a private army as is the Salvation Army) - or that you don't believe Politifact is pointing people at the actual bill?

Once a "civilian army" is in place by law, the purview of that army can be changed at a future date. We don't need this and the creation of such a force in the first place, and history warns us to reject this idea. Common sense and a view to the past (think Europe) must prevail here.

Originally Posted by buggyone

Richie,

you are absolutely right (no pun intended). You have nothing to worry about in the elections of 2012. The Democrats will prevail with President Obama again and we do not have to worry that the USA will go back to the days of Bush and Cheney.

2 out of 3 Americans think the failing economy is Obama's fault. (liberal channel ABC by the way). You think this portends a rosy Democrat future?

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/mone...55/detail.html

Not only are more the blacks disapproving Obama, women are seeing the light,

too.

But Gallup polling last week showed that only 41 percent of women now say they approve of the way Obama is handling his job as president. That is an all-time low--down from the previous low of 43 percent,

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/gall...-all-time-lo-0

Didn't the presidents job go further back than Bush/Chaney?
Seems like too many can only remember that far though.
Y'all certainly would not be intimating that all was right (no pun intended) prior to Bush/Chaney.
The new talking points out recently have "congress" as the enemy....some must not have gotten the memo. Even Obama recognizes the Bush/Chaney thing is old and lame....hence his new target....congress...comprised of bot R and D.

Similar theme though...it is always somebody else's fault/problem/blame but his!!

btk

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

Not only are more the blacks disapproving Obama, women are seeing the light,

too.


http://cnsnews.com/news/article/gall...-all-time-lo-0

Lawdy, lawdy.....dey sees da light.

Originally Posted by DaleMN

Lawdy, lawdy.....dey sees da light.

You really have a handle on the cliche racist verbiage. Do you really believe that using racist language bolsters your position?

Why don't you use that language when you speak to the people over at the Black Entertainment Network who posted a story on Obama's plunging support among his black voter base? I'm sure they'll think you're hilarious.

http://www.bet.com/news/politics/201...r-economy.html

Originally Posted by RichieLion

You really have a handle on the cliche racist verbiage. Do you really believe that using racist language bolsters your position?

Why don't you use that language when you speak to the people over at the Black Entertainment Network who posted a story on Obama's plunging support among his black voter base? I'm sure they'll think you're hilarious.

http://www.bet.com/news/politics/201...r-economy.html

I'm just a laugh a minute.

Richie,

You may say that Obama's polling numbers are going low to African-American voters. It doesn't matter if they think Obama is not the greatest. There is NO WAY the mainstream African-American bloc is going to vote for a Reactionary Republican like Michelle Bachmann, Rick Perry, Sarah Palin, or Marco Rubio if they are anywhere on the ticket. Still going to have around 90% going for Obama. Toss in most college students and voters under 30, too. Most Hispanic voters will do the same thing, too. You know that the Democrat political machine is going out to get these voters to the voting booths and, yes, President Obama is going to be re-elected.

Originally Posted by buggyone

Richie,

You may say that Obama's polling numbers are going low to African-American voters. It doesn't matter if they think Obama is not the greatest. There is NO WAY the mainstream African-American bloc is going to vote for a Reactionary Republican like Michelle Bachmann, Rick Perry, Sarah Palin, or Marco Rubio if they are anywhere on the ticket. Still going to have around 90% going for Obama. Toss in most college students and voters under 30, too. Most Hispanic voters will do the same thing, too. You know that the Democrat political machine is going out to get these voters to the voting booths and, yes, President Obama is going to be re-elected.

I predict lots of people who voted for Obama last election will not return to the polls because of a widespread Obama support malaise as this country goes deeper and deeper into the Obama doldrums.

Independents will gravitate toward a more business friendly candidate.

In addition, lots of people who did not vote in that election will vote, and not for Obama, because they'll have to take that chance at another opportunity for a better future.

You've made your position well known, and so have I. We have a long time to wait to see who's correct. I still have a feeling in the end it'll be me grinning and you with the hang dog expression. Cheers!!

It is going to be very interesting to see who the Republicans finally do put on their ticket.