Originally Posted by KayakerNC

How does appointing a temporary to fill-in until the scheduled special election "deny the right of the people to vote for their representatives"?

Go back and read my post.

Yoda

Originally Posted by Yoda

Go back and read my post.

Yoda

Ok I did....4 years ago the legislature changed the replacement law from a Governor appointment to a special election. Now they changed it back to a Govenor appointment until the special election.

So in a few months everyone will get to vote...if the election hasn't been called off how, as your post 1st line states, are people being denied the right to vote.

Originally Posted by cologal

Ok I did....4 years ago the legislature changed the replacement law from a Governor appointment to a special election. Now they changed it back to a Govenor appointment until the special election.

So in a few months everyone will get to vote...if the election hasn't been called off how, as your post 1st line states, are people being denied the right to vote.

It was done both times for democrat political manipulation. Did you see the note of Presidential pressure?

It's not right.

Yoda

Yoda..I don't know why there is any surprise about the political manipulation !! Remember the snake story..A guy was walking down the road and he heard a voice yelling "help me". He looked down and saw a snake who pleaded with him to pick him up and take him across the road. The guy said no since the snake would bite him..The snake said no and promised he would not bite him so the guy picked him up. As soon as they got to the other side of the road the snake bit him. He was shocked and asked the snake why he bit him as he promised he wouldn't. The snake said, "but that is what snakes do."
Why is there any surprise that a politician would be manipulative, dishonest, lie, cheat, put himself above the people. That is what politicians do..Obama is no different..!!

changed the law to prohibit the appointment of a temporary to maintain full representation by the Republicans....and the law was changed.....NOW, when the shoe is on the other foot...... when the Dem hypocites want to desprately preserve their representation (magic bulldozer 60), they want the law changed back so a temporary can be appointed and oh by the way....MAINTAIN THE MAGIC 60.

To the average American this smacks of changing the rules to suit ones purpose, not once but twice. To the politicians it is just a continuation of doing what ever they can get away with maintaining the party position, even if it means BENDING the rules. To the political supporters....they all seem to go along, blindly, with what ever deeds their party pursues.

The law change is blatant politics first.....to with rules and laws. It is what is wrong with our country today. If you can't win....cheat!!

btk

Originally Posted by Yoda

Go back and read my post.

Yoda

I did.
Your "deny the right of the people to vote for their representatives" statement is false.

let us amend yoda's statement to read "postpone" the right of the people to vote until we can ram through this healthcare bill which no one really understands anyway."

What makes you think that a vote in the Senate is not a vote.

Anyone who is not scared with the direction of the country and the current administration must be burying their heads in the sand. I don't care if you are a democrat or republican the current direction is truly scary and it demonstrates what happens when you have no check and balances in the government.

This is really a pretty sad statement to the extremes the political parties will go to.
In 2004 this law was changed in MA before the election as Dems were concerned about a Repub governor selecting a Repub replacement senator should the Dems have won the election. But the Repub amendment to allow a temp appointed replacement pending an election was shot down in the legislature. Fast forward to 2009 and now it is ok to change the law, because it favors the Dems, to what was proposed 2004. Hypocrisy at its best.

Originally Posted by billethkid

changed the law to prohibit the appointment of a temporary to maintain full representation by the Republicans....and the law was changed.....NOW, when the shoe is on the other foot...... when the Dem hypocites want to desperately preserve their representation (magic bulldozer 60), they want the law changed back so a temporary can be appointed and oh by the way....MAINTAIN THE MAGIC 60.

To the average American this smacks of changing the rules to suit ones purpose, not once but twice. To the politicians it is just a continuation of doing what ever they can get away with maintaining the party position, even if it means BENDING the rules. To the political supporters....they all seem to go along, blindly, with what ever deeds their party pursues.

The law change is blatant politics first.....to with rules and laws. It is what is wrong with our country today. If you can't win....cheat!!

btk

But it was ok for the Repubs in Texas to alter the districts to their advantage and then, when the Dems got out off Austin rather than vote, the Repubs tried to illegally track them down.

Both sides try gain an advantage.....

Originally Posted by REH7380

Anyone who is not scared with the direction of the country and the current administration must be burying their heads in the sand. I don't care if you are a democrat or republican the current direction is truly scary and it demonstrates what happens when you have no check and balances in the government.

While I'm assuming REH is talking about the period of time from 2000-2008 about the lapse in checks and balances, I find it offensive, or at least totally naive to say theat "Anyone ... is burying their head in the sand."

I thought this Board was now avoiding personal insults,,, and your comment is a personal judgement not based in fact.

At least we have an Attorney General now who is committed to obeying and upholding the laws of the land, not conveniently "forgetting" any attempt to circumvent the laws of the land at the bidding of his patron.

cc: Board Administrator

Originally Posted by REH7380

Anyone who is not scared with the direction of the country and the current administration must be burying their heads in the sand. I don't care if you are a democrat or republican the current direction is truly scary and it demonstrates what happens when you have no check and balances in the government.

Why was no one scared after 1 yr. of Bush/Cheney, 9/11 occurred on their watch or lack of? Where are the WMDs and oil paying for the war? To quote the tea ******* "the government can't run any thing effectively," let's privatize the Pentagon they haven't won a war since WWII!
People are rightfully wary of the government after 8 years of being run by a bunch of incompetents/liars, if these guys were contractors they would have been fired after 1 month the job but that wouldn't have been patriotic. To paraphrase PT Barnum, "There's a sucker born every minute, less if you just wave a flag or claim God is on your side."

9/11 occurred on their watch or lack of?

Actually 9/11 occurred on the Clinton watch. Bush was a pretty new President at the time. Clinton passed on OBL several times prior to that and pretty much decimated our counter intelligence agencies, much the same as BO is doing now.

Originally Posted by vtcyclist

Why was no one scared after 1 yr. of Bush/Cheney, 9/11 occurred on their watch or lack of? Where are the WMDs and oil paying for the war? To quote the tea ******* "the government can't run any thing effectively," let's privatize the Pentagon they haven't won a war since WWII!
People are rightfully wary of the government after 8 years of being run by a bunch of incompetents/liars, if these guys were contractors they would have been fired after 1 month the job but that wouldn't have been patriotic. To paraphrase PT Barnum, "There's a sucker born every minute, less if you just wave a flag or claim God is on your side."

Is there no end to the Bush bashing?

Yoda