To the OP, please don't view the Villagers out see posting on here as the norm. Clearly they are not. At last count, Sumter County was something like 60% republican and independents, and 40% democrats. Which is probably pretty common for retirement communities where older people tend to be more conservative. The bottom line s there is something here politically fore everyone.

Originally Posted by Guest

Guess I just got the online version of a pat on the head. Sigh. I know it is hard for you conservative, Republican, whte men to believe, but most liberals are not stupid nor naive. We love this country. We do have work ethics. We are no more hypocritical than most average human beings. Many of us really do understand that a coin has two sides. We are tolerant of other people's foibles and beliefs. We may not like it, but we do believe the KKK has as much right to a parade as a peace protest. We do believe everyone should get a fair chance but not a free ride. We do believe that protecting the environment is important. We do believe that people should have the right to enjoy their sexual preference so long as it does not harm another. And so on and so forth. We ain't stupid nor blind.

Most liberals I know are sorely disappointed in Obama and not thrilled with the concept of Hillary as President. But we do think anyone would be better than Trump or Rubio. For now, I'm rooting for Rand Paul and he doesn't stand a snowball's chance. So, Mickey Mouse may end up getting my vote.

No believe we need LIBERALS to suggest how it SHOULD be. Problem is TODAY thanks to PARROTING Obama and Hillary believe that CONSERVATIVES are evil. Yet, they demand that the conservatives must pay for their LIBERAL PROGRAMS.
Simple economics-If, you tax something you will have less of it. If, you subsidize something you will have more of it.
You report, most liberals are sorely disappointed with Obama. YOU DO NOT MENTION THAT IT IS THE LIBERALS THAT PUT HIM IN OFFICE. Sadly the result of Obama is that this country is more divided then ever before in my lifetime and we are now 19 TRILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT. Since, you are posting here I assume you are receiving social security or soon to. We paid for this so it is not WELFARE. Our government keeps telling us our major creditors are china and japan. I was shocked to discover that first of all Japan owns slightly more of our debt than China does but, more important together they only hold about 20% of our national debt. SOCIAL SECURITY OWNS 42% OF THE NATIONAL DEBT.

Originally Posted by Guest

I was shocked to discover that first of all Japan owns slightly more of our debt than China does but, more important together they only hold about 20% of our national debt. SOCIAL SECURITY OWNS 42% OF THE NATIONAL DEBT.

Remedial math-----SS trust fund is 2.7 trillion, national debt close to 19 trillion. Try 14% instead. But, the majority of the debt is owned by American citizens by way of 401Ks and mutual funds, as well as bank and insurance company holdings.

Originally Posted by Guest

No believe we need LIBERALS to suggest how it SHOULD be. Problem is TODAY thanks to PARROTING Obama and Hillary believe that CONSERVATIVES are evil. Yet, they demand that the conservatives must pay for their LIBERAL PROGRAMS.
Simple economics-If, you tax something you will have less of it. If, you subsidize something you will have more of it.
You report, most liberals are sorely disappointed with Obama. YOU DO NOT MENTION THAT IT IS THE LIBERALS THAT PUT HIM IN OFFICE. Sadly the result of Obama is that this country is more divided then ever before in my lifetime and we are now 19 TRILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT. Since, you are posting here I assume you are receiving social security or soon to. We paid for this so it is not WELFARE. Our government keeps telling us our major creditors are china and japan. I was shocked to discover that first of all Japan owns slightly more of our debt than China does but, more important together they only hold about 20% of our national debt. SOCIAL SECURITY OWNS 42% OF THE NATIONAL DEBT.

Mccaine said we have a lot of hard work to do BUT AMERICANS ARE UP TO THE TASK.

The LIBERALS instead of a mature vote voted for OBAMA the candyman can.
Now we have an even harder problem to deal with. THANKS TO OBAMA we do not even have AMERICANS working on a UNITED INTEREST AND PROBLEM,we have a divided population and we have double the NATIONAL DEBT. OBAMA hitched his wagon to divisiveness and RACISM-AMERICAN WEAKNESS. The sad facts Black vote was 98% for Obama (13% of the population) Jewish vote was 86% for Obama (5% of the population) had the rest of the population voted along the same racially motivated lines Obama would have gotten roughly 28% of the vote-the worst defeat in American History. If, you wonder, not that it matters, I AM PROUDLY ONE OF THE 18% OF JEWS THAT DID NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA. For all you LIBERALS blind to the fact that you have skillfully been hypnotized to the democratic BS. I suggest you open your mind and see that for the labeled as racist REPUBLICANS skin color was not at all an issue with Carson. In the debate, the reporter tried to bait Carson into the OBAMA LIBERAL RACISM, his reply was I AM A SURGEON. How much more politely could he address this question. For those who did not understand what he said YOU ARE A DEMOCRATIC BRAINWASHED FOOL.

Originally Posted by Guest

Mccaine said we have a lot of hard work to do BUT AMERICANS ARE UP TO THE TASK.

The LIBERALS instead of a mature vote voted for OBAMA the candyman can.
Now we have an even harder problem to deal with. THANKS TO OBAMA we do not even have AMERICANS working on a UNITED INTEREST AND PROBLEM,we have a divided population and we have double the NATIONAL DEBT. OBAMA hitched his wagon to divisiveness and RACISM-AMERICAN WEAKNESS. The sad facts Black vote was 98% for Obama (13% of the population) Jewish vote was 86% for Obama (5% of the population) had the rest of the population voted along the same racially motivated lines Obama would have gotten roughly 28% of the vote-the worst defeat in American History. If, you wonder, not that it matters, I AM PROUDLY ONE OF THE 18% OF JEWS THAT DID NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA. For all you LIBERALS blind to the fact that you have skillfully been hypnotized to the democratic BS. I suggest you open your mind and see that for the labeled as racist REPUBLICANS skin color was not at all an issue with Carson. In the debate, the reporter tried to bait Carson into the OBAMA LIBERAL RACISM, his reply was I AM A SURGEON. How much more politely could he address this question. For those who did not understand what he said YOU ARE A DEMOCRATIC BRAINWASHED FOOL.

DO YOU ALWAYS NEED TO YELL TO MAKE A POINT? DO YOU? DO YOU?

Bring out the Ben Carson in you.

Originally Posted by Guest

DO YOU ALWAYS NEED TO YELL TO MAKE A POINT? DO YOU? DO YOU?

Bring out the Ben Carson in you.

Now Chi, why do you even bother to make your snide comments? You do not give liberals a good Rep. You have yet to make an informative comment, just snide retorts to someone else's comment. You have almost lowered yourself to the juvenile standards of our pet liberal troll. Some on here probably give you the benefit of doubt, as I do, because you seem to be mostly civil with your simple one liners.

what we all know is that whther there is a D or an R besides one's name only matters on forums like this or at one of the party pep rallys.

Other than that nobody....NOBODY.....needs to know who or what flavor you are or what the flavor of the neighborhhood/village/town or city.

On the check list real or mentally noted how many have a to do that suggests find out what political party the people/village/town/city/newspaper/etc....is or belong to....NONE!!!!!

I defy anybody to know TV or any other town/city/etc political leaning by associating with the people in it.

It is mostly a need for the person who has to use religion or race or politics to either identify themselves or ser themselves apart from everybody else.

Most people are who you see is what you get.......but as we all know the 2-5% radicals/die hards/blow hards/antagonists/those who wish they had a better life hell raisers....get all the attention.

The majority of us enjoy life and each other.

Originally Posted by Guest

Now Chi, why do you even bother to make your snide comments? You do not give liberals a good Rep. You have yet to make an informative comment, just snide retorts to someone else's comment. You have almost lowered yourself to the juvenile standards of our pet liberal troll. Some on here probably give you the benefit of doubt, as I do, because you seem to be mostly civil with your simple one liners.

Well MD, sometimes a little office decorum would be nice. Too bad you don't think someone yelling calling people Democratic brainwashed fools is a little beyond snide. But since you don't here is a classic insult yelling clip featuring an all star cast:

https://youtu.be/OdwGcC9jMIw

Originally Posted by Guest

Well MD, sometimes a little office decorum would be nice. Too bad you don't think someone yelling calling people Democratic brainwashed fools is a little beyond snide. But since you don't here is a classic insult yelling clip featuring an all star cast:

https://youtu.be/OdwGcC9jMIw

Still can't contribute? I don't consider you a troll, but you do enjoy agitating without contributing, like a troll. At least you aren't nasty like the pet liberal.

Originally Posted by Guest

Dear Guest: I could logically counterpoint on every single statement you made but it would be much too long. So let me say with all due respect your thinking here is a prime example of the shallow, bias and delusional thinking conducted by so many progressives.

For example your statement referring to the repeal of Obamacare flys in the face of reason when by every measure, measures generated by different people many of whom have no axe to grind explain the disastrous affect this law has had on our economy.

Frankly I tired of trying to explain the facts of life to present day progressives ,its like talking to a drunk . Clearly the Democratic Party has been hijacked by radicals whose policies continue to sink this nation into mediocrity and when logical intelligent people try to explain such folly progressives respond with accusations of "the three golden rules of criticize, condemn and complain"from the Party of No. "Disingenuous", as you progressive are fond of saying, don't you think.

And by the way I am as inclined to disagree with many Republicans who place self interests ahead of national interest and that speaker who resigned singing a happy tune was one of them. And its beginning to look like the speaker with the newly grown beard is heading in the same direction with his agreement to fund Planned Parenthood.

Its no wonder Trump is trumping them all....and I am not fond of Trump

Personal Best Regards:

This response is perfect to explain exactly what the majorities of the posters here are. Blind to all foolish nonsense posted by their kind. No one had any problem at all the two long lists criticizing everything liberals are suppose to be, but the second someone responds in kind what conservatives are that list is too long. I can't respond to your list because "it's too hard, and long".

When I did respond putting up an article that contradicted some of the items in Mr. List Maker, and his evil twin posts, his evil twin told me my response was lame. Then, they got what they asked for, and list long as theirs. So, what is the problem? Maybe it is about time you start getting as good as you give out.

By the way, why did you take that list seriously? Are people here so thinned skinned that they can't see backhanded humor directed at them? What is worse is all the foolish lists directed at anyone that doesn't walk lock step with them are taken as gospel. Maybe you should control your own before attacking someone that doesn't agree with you 100% of the time. Only then should someone take you seriously.

Originally Posted by Guest

This response is perfect to explain exactly what the majorities of the posters here are. Blind to all foolish nonsense posted by their kind. No one had any problem at all the two long lists criticizing everything liberals are suppose to be, but the second someone responds in kind what conservatives are that list is too long. I can't respond to your list because "it's too hard, and long".

When I did respond putting up an article that contradicted some of the items in Mr. List Maker, and his evil twin posts, his evil twin told me my response was lame. Then, they got what they asked for, and list long as theirs. So, what is the problem? Maybe it is about time you start getting as good as you give out.

By the way, why did you take that list seriously? Are people here so thinned skinned that they can't see backhanded humor directed at them? What is worse is all the foolish lists directed at anyone that doesn't walk lock step with them are taken as gospel. Maybe you should control your own before attacking someone that doesn't agree with you 100% of the time. Only then should someone take you seriously.

Please stop whining. It is soooo unbecoming. I can understand how you can be humiliated with the limited selection of pitiful candidates running for your party this time. But, adult up and try to maintain a confident air as Hillary sells your country down the river. Remember, you can always vote Republican this time around, and shore you image back up.

Originally Posted by Guest

I am a New Yorker and am looking for a community that is fun, positive and where I can meet new friends. Everyone raves about The Villages up here. Can you tell me if there is racial and political diversity? I known my own values and who I am going to vote for and I don't like hearing a lot of "ranting" about politics. That is what is going on a lot where I live and I would love to get away from it. Any feedback would be welcome. Thanks!

If the only impression of the Villages I had was from reading the political forum, I wouldn't settle within 100 miles of the place. I strongly recommend you take advantage of the lifestyle preview program and check out The Villages for yourself. You will see that the vast majority of villagers have better things to do than talk politics. I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times I have overheard others having political conversations in The Villages.

If you're looking for well thought out, intelligent discourse addressing the issues confronting the country, you will not find it here. Some the typical threads that demonstrate an intelligent, nuanced command of the issues include: "republicans are mean spirited", "Why are democrats so foolish?", or "republican hypocrites".

Sadly, the political forum is made up of a large number of baiters who are masters at it. They do it for their own pleasure, indeed you could go blind trying to make sense of it all.

Originally Posted by Guest

I am a New Yorker and am looking for a community that is fun, positive and where I can meet new friends. Everyone raves about The Villages up here. Can you tell me if there is racial and political diversity? I known my own values and who I am going to vote for and I don't like hearing a lot of "ranting" about politics. That is what is going on a lot where I live and I would love to get away from it. Any feedback would be welcome. Thanks!

By now you have seen a lot of diverse opinions expressed by "Guest." Actually, probably more than a handful of Guest(s).

The bottom line to me is that the political forum is a place where posters can hide behind the facade of anonymity. (Note that I have not hidden my name. It is not guest.)

Someone posted a comment about a father saying one should not discuss politics, religion, or taxes, sex, etc in polite company. Just realize that Guest doesn't necessarily buy that philosophy. So that being the case, I would say 10-25 actors out of 120,000 is not an intolerable percentage. Besides, some of the comments are worthy of good stand-up comedy.

Guest does not run around the squares screaming his/her views. Guest is not likely to suddenly jump on a soap box in Publix. It would be highly unlikely for a Guest flash mob to appear at The Sharon.

All in all, we are a community of caring, intelligent, inquisitive, and friendly People. You'll love it here, believe me. And while I'm not a Guest, I'll defend their right to be Guests, especially when I disagree. I even have friends that are Guest(s).

C'mon down.

Originally Posted by Guest

Please stop whining. It is soooo unbecoming. I can understand how you can be humiliated with the limited selection of pitiful candidates running for your party this time. But, adult up and try to maintain a confident air as Hillary sells your country down the river. Remember, you can always vote Republican this time around, and shore you image back up.

Stop whining. Now, that is funny. The second someone swings back at a Republican the alligator tears flow. Wake up. That is what Personal Best Regards did cried a river.

My party, the Democrats. You know this how? I am an independent that will vote for John Kasich, if he still is in the hunt. If not, I will vote for Donald Duck in the general election. In MY country, Mr. Duck is head and wings above everyone else running.

Originally Posted by Guest

Stop whining. Now, that is funny. The second someone swings back at a Republican the alligator tears flow. Wake up. That is what Personal Best Regards did cried a river.

My party, the Democrats. You know this how? I am an independent that will vote for John Kasich, if he still is in the hunt. If not, I will vote for Donald Duck in the general election. In MY country, Mr. Duck is head and wings above everyone else running.

Yes, yes, yes, you have insisted that you are Independent and going to vote for Kasich many times. Are you trying to convince yourself, or are you trying to fool us? I doubt anyone is buying it, but really? Really? Do you think that it is anyone else's business who you vote for? Do you think anyone cares? Kasich is out of the running, or will be. Sorry about that. You try to convince that you are Independent for what reason? There is NO Independent party. There is only Democrat or Republican. You can't even vote in the primaries in most states as an Independent. But, you know that. You are just the forum pet troll that likes to bait and get attention. Well, you got your five minutes of attention. Bye now.