Originally Posted by chelsea24

Ya see Bucco, I like Senator Obama, background and all. I like what he stands for. I like the hope he brings. I like his stands on the issues. I'm going to vote for him. That's a done deal. I don't care if his Aunt Tilly raised pot. I like him very, very much. So, any and all cautions are wasted on me.

I don't think the are LOST on you....gives you something to be passionatly against!! And that is ok!!

Ya see Bucco, I like Senator Obama, background and all. I like what he stands for. I like the hope he brings. I like his stands on the issues. I'm going to vote for him. That's a done deal. I don't care if his Aunt Tilly grows pot. I like him very, very much. So, any and all cautions are wasted on me.
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As always you think all the posts are to you or about you. I was certainly not addressing you with this one.

You are absolutely correct to like what you want and vote anyway you want...this is America and that is our right. I have as much right to talk about Sen Obama's radical ties in his background as you do to mock Gov Palin..isnt it a wonderful country !

Originally Posted by chelsea24

I don't think Palin's aware of many things. But, to Bucco's associations, let's look at Todd Palin and his association to the AIP. They wanted to sucede from the "lower 48". So much for "Country First."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4687705.ece

The AIP is not much different than the "Conch Republic" or any other group located at the far outreaches of the nation. The number of AIP members with Native American heritage (many of whom still see the federal government more as a warden than a partner) influences its agenda.

The AIP and similar groups basically do "community organizing" to insure the populace doesn't get ramrodded by carpetbagging "southerners (to them)" exploiting the area. The AIP's platform (Article 1) calls To effect full compliance with the constitutions of the United States of America and the State of Alaska. (http://www.akip.org/platform.html)

if one has ever lived in Texas, the same attitude exists within that state among persons with long roots there.

Just pointing out "associates" Steve. Bucco seems to be hung up on associates of Senator Obama's made years ago or blown out of proportion. Actually forgets to mention that Senator Obama ran against Bobby Rush for Congress in Illinois and lost that election in 2000.

I'm from Chicago, so I clearly remembered how these things played out. hmmmm, yes, the people of Chicago voted Bobby Rush in. hmmmm, associations? Oh yes, did I mention that Bobby Rush was the co-founder of the Black Panthers in Chicago. You all remember the Black Panthers don't you?

Just stating this to show how people do move past some associations, as Bobby Rush did. By the way, Bobby Rush supports Obama now. So?

The William Ayers connection is just ludicrous. Senator Obama was 8 years old when Ayers had anything to do with the Weathermen, a $200 dollar contribution to a re-elect Obama fund and they sat on an eight member Woods Fund board.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-...onnection.html

BTW, I think is you're going to stoop to "guilt by association" it works both ways.

Originally Posted by chelsea24

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BTW, I think is you're going to stoop to "guilt by association" it works both ways.

Of course it does, provided the associate(s) have an agenda of anti-Americanism, anarchy, criminal acts, domestic terrorism, and employ or endorse mayhem against the general populace to achieve their ends.

Big-city politics (Chicago, Boston, Detroit, NYC, LA) are considered more notorious simply because of the greater amount of money involved. None of these places has cornered the market on shadiness. Small-city/town and county have their share, but don't have the media exposure and money to match.

Perspective is difficult to attain when only a single light shines into the prism of fact. Distortion is commonplace in such situations, and we all need to realize that. It's too easy to run with a single source of information and be dead wrong - and that goes for all of the candidates in this campaign.

Originally Posted by SteveZ

Of course it does, provided the associate(s) have an agenda of anti-Americanism, anarchy, criminal acts, domestic terrorism, and employ or endorse mayhem against the general populace to achieve their ends.

Big-city politics (Chicago, Boston, Detroit, NYC, LA) are considered more notorious simply because of the greater amount of money involved. None of these places has cornered the market on shadiness. Small-city/town and county have their share, but don't have the media exposure and money to match.

Perspective is difficult to attain when only a single light shines into the prism of fact. Distortion is commonplace in such situations, and we all need to realize that. It's too easy to run with a single source of information and be dead wrong - and that goes for all of the candidates in this campaign.

On this particular post, we do agree! I particularly like your statement "Perspective is difficult to attain when only a single light shines into a prism of fact." :bigthumbsup: