The reality of this world is difference. Likeness and difference. When I don't like the way you say something, the way you betray something, the way
you think about something, I tell YOU. And, you get nervous and norvous.
What is fortunate for all of us is we ultimately find ourselves in the voting
booth. Alone. There we take the aggragate of our feelings, knowledge, and attitude, and we make a choice. I don't need you to "educate" me, I'm quite
happy with the 30 years I spent in schoo and my long and astonishing career thereafter;, what I need you to do is look outward, toward other people, other people's feelings and attitudes. Therein is the openess of government that our forefathers hoped would live and langusish here. The more blunt and argumentative you become, the angrier you make the outside world.

If you would spend more time inner directed than outer directed, our world would be a better place. Just because we can talk without being in the same room or neighborhood, doesn't mean we cannot speak with our own
confidence and belief without fear of being taken to the hanging tree. I do
appreciate your right, and the right of the right leaning posters here to spread your feelings, but I also ask you to take responsibility for that which
you may say which is in terrible disharmony with democratic, social, and
emotional ideals and the well being of many, including our Country. While
an Independent, I tend to lean more to the left after a lifetime of trying to
"fix" things. The bottom line is you hurt my feelings, hurt my education, hurt
my substantial change on several systems which effect children and families.

I, too, have my feelings, have a right to those, and feel hollow when the opposition, so to speak, languishes in the menu du jour. Several posters here have tried to ask you to do so, however, it seems an impossibility. Until you have been in the halls of Congress, been in conference with the multi dimensional White House, dealt with both the Democratic and Republican
junta of the last 30 years, then I don't think you educate, rather you
theocrat. You become, as has been said, T.C. Mits. The Common Man In the Streets. I have worked too hard in my career to be in those shoes.
My brain is solidly in it's boney cabvity sitting on tall shoulders of change that make all of our lives better by work, not by talk.

Doodlegirl,
I wish you would show me where I did any of what to say.
I know that you believe that you are so much smarter and educated than me, that I am a waste of your time and oxygen. However with your way of thinking, how will we ever have a conversation that does not start with me being stupid and you being so much smarter.
I don't even know what your beef with me is. My problem on this thread was someone saying they hoped that someone did not have daughters and somehow it ended up me stupid, you smart.
I never addressed you directly other than responding to your post.
Sad that you can just write someone you don't really know off as just so much dead meat!

Originally Posted by Doodlegirl

The reality of this world is difference. Likeness and difference. When I don't like the way you say something, the way you betray something, the way
you think about something, I tell YOU. And, you get nervous and norvous.
What is fortunate for all of us is we ultimately find ourselves in the voting
booth. Alone. There we take the aggragate of our feelings, knowledge, and attitude, and we make a choice. I don't need you to "educate" me, I'm quite
happy with the 30 years I spent in schoo and my long and astonishing career thereafter;, what I need you to do is look outward, toward other people, other people's feelings and attitudes. Therein is the openess of government that our forefathers hoped would live and langusish here. The more blunt and argumentative you become, the angrier you make the outside world.

If you would spend more time inner directed than outer directed, our world would be a better place. Just because we can talk without being in the same room or neighborhood, doesn't mean we cannot speak with our own
confidence and belief without fear of being taken to the hanging tree. I do
appreciate your right, and the right of the right leaning posters here to spread your feelings, but I also ask you to take responsibility for that which
you may say which is in terrible disharmony with democratic, social, and
emotional ideals and the well being of many, including our Country. While
an Independent, I tend to lean more to the left after a lifetime of trying to
"fix" things. The bottom line is you hurt my feelings, hurt my education, hurt
my substantial change on several systems which effect children and families.

I, too, have my feelings, have a right to those, and feel hollow when the opposition, so to speak, languishes in the menu du jour. Several posters here have tried to ask you to do so, however, it seems an impossibility. Until you have been in the halls of Congress, been in conference with the multi dimensional White House, dealt with both the Democratic and Republican
junta of the last 30 years, then I don't think you educate, rather you
theocrat. You become, as has been said, T.C. Mits. The Common Man In the Streets. I have worked too hard in my career to be in those shoes.
My brain is solidly in it's boney cabvity sitting on tall shoulders of change that make all of our lives better by work, not by talk.

Looks like a copy and paste post to me.

I was watching TV this evening and it came to me in a show that was on. We are

, T.C. Mits. The Common Man In the Streets.

They are Sheldon Cooper on Big Bang Theory. Now I understand, it is totally clear to me now!
Peace Out!

"Until you have been in the halls of Congress, been in conference with the multi dimensional White House, dealt with both the Democratic and Republican
junta of the last 30 years, then I don't think you educate, rather you
theocrat. You become, as has been said, T.C. Mits. The Common Man In the Streets. I have worked too hard in my career to be in those shoes.
My brain is solidly in it's boney cabvity sitting on tall shoulders of change that make all of our lives better by work, not by talk."

Huh?

Read this entire thread tonight to catch up on what the fuss was about...I remember my mother, her sisters, and my grandmothers, all of which were Gentle Giants! They were larger than life and givers of love without limit. They nurtured, disciplined, advised, made wonderful meals and kept simple beautiful homes. They did all this guietly and without an inkling of a need to emasculate the men in their lives or this world. At peace with their truly powerful feminity. I am saddened at the place that women's lib has gotten us. The anger and hatred for men AND the immense amount of arrogance leaping off the postings of the female posters on this thread, is repulsive. Such from the older, wiser, more mature women...WOW! I am embarrassed for my gender. No wonder our society is in the sad condition it is in today.

Originally Posted by KatzPajamas

Read this entire thread tonight to catch up on what the fuss was about...I remember my mother, her sisters, and my grandmothers, all of which were Gentle Giants! They were larger than life and givers of love without limit. They nurtured, disciplined, advised, made wonderful meals and kept simple beautiful homes. They did all this guietly and without an inkling of a need to emasculate the men in their lives or this world. At peace with their truly powerful feminity. I am saddened at the place that women's lib has gotten us. The anger and hatred for men AND the immense amount of arrogance leaping off the postings of the female posters on this thread, is repulsive. Such from the older, wiser, more mature women...WOW! I am embarrassed for my gender. No wonder our society is in the sad condition it is in today.

Very powerful, Katz. That was the most down to earth post I have ever read here. Thank You.

Originally Posted by Loveithere

Obama still drinks and smokes. In his book Obama admits he was addicted to drugs. It stands to reason that if you call Bush a drunk when he quit years ago, then Obama is a drug addict too.

I would hardly call 'having a beer' a problem.

But, as far as Obama's smoking, you're a bit out of date:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7AG1XZ20111117

He's been an EX-smoker since last year.

Can some of you who seem to hate Obama's every move at least acknowledge THAT?

Originally Posted by djplong

I would hardly call 'having a beer' a problem.

But, as far as Obama's smoking, you're a bit out of date:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7AG1XZ20111117

He's been an EX-smoker since last year.

Can some of you who seem to hate Obama's every move at least acknowledge THAT?

The point I was trying to make is that Bush quit drinking decades ago and is still being called a drunk by the lefties on this forum. To use that logic, Obama is a beer swilling smoker and a dope addict. Get it?

Can some of you who seem to hate Obama's every move at least acknowledge THAT?

I can do that! Put me down as one. He has not been a good president and anybody that thinks he has is not being honest!

Hate, no, needs replacing, yes.

Originally Posted by Posh 08

Hate, no, needs replacing, yes.

Exactly. I do not hate him. I hate the terrible job he is doing.

Originally Posted by Loveithere

Exactly. I do not hate him. I hate the terrible job he is doing.

Bingo

This thread has turned so warm and fuzzy... I think I'll go make myself a hot chocolate...

Originally Posted by memason

This thread has turned so warm and fuzzy... I think I'll go make myself a hot chocolate...

LOL Yea, I think I will go to the driving range.