http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100907/...as_afghanistan

This church's ( Dove World Outreach Center Terry Jones' leadership) plans to burn the Koran on 9/11 makes us here in Central FL look like a bunch of crackers.

Not so much like crackers as extreme religious zealots. Extreme religion is often very dangerous. ...except for extreme kindness. Hating and hurting can only get back in kind.

The present situation in the world has bred a lot of fear and unfortunately it has polarized people.

It is reported that a bank has called in the 'church's' mortgage: pay $140,000 now or face foreclosure. No info on timing, whether the call or his (IMHO) bigoted effort came first. Think this might be a fund-raising gimmick?

Last week all I heard when the discussion was around the mosque in NYC was that the people against it needed to learn tolerance. Even our ppresident said they had the right to build it, but it may not be the best wisdom to do so. The ACLU and our courts have all declared the burning of our flag as free speech, the protests of our fallen soldiers funerals by Westwood Baptist as free speech, burning of the bible as being OK etc etc. The problem is with us, we, as Americans, need to be tolerant. Why is this any different ? Doesn't seem to go both ways.

I don't agree with the burning of the Quran but I don't agree with the other actions I cited above either. However, like it or not, it is a right that is protected by our Constitution.

The more telling information coming out of this is the extent of hatred being shown towards this pastor, not only by Americans, but from the extremists we are at war with. Why aren't they tolerant and show an understanding of our Constitution ? It only seems to be understood when it benefits them.

This is beyond scary. It's bad enough that there is intolerance in the world, but this act will make things worse. Lives of our military and civilian population will be in danger.

That particular ministry is just as frightening as the militant Muslims. Religious zealots seem to be less tolerant of others....it's their way or the highway so to speak.

and is too self centered stupid to realize the impact he is making....negative.
In addition to painting a target on his own back and any innocents nearby him.

btk

I actually heard a soldier on Sean Hannity supporting this guy. His point was that the military is all voluntary and everyone in the military took an oath to protect the Constitution of the United States.

There are a lot of things done in this country I don't agree with, this being one of them, but they are part of living in a free country. Do you want your freedoms revoked ? Who decides what is acceptable and what isn't in terms of freedom of speech ?

I would love to stop the Iman from building the mosque in NYC near ground zero or kick somebody's butt that burns the US flag or ban the people from Westwood Baptist that tried to ruin the funeral of my friend's son who died in Iraq but we don't do that.

They have the right to express their opinions. Just as I have the right to be dumbfounded that the pastor can't see that he is acting EXACTLY like the people he condemns. He is reducing himself and his flock to their level.

Originally Posted by djplong

They have the right to express their opinions. Just as I have the right to be dumbfounded that the pastor can't see that he is acting EXACTLY like the people he condemns. He is reducing himself and his flock to their level.

The local fire department where this church is had a spokeswoman on the local news who said that local law forbids burning of books because of the ink in them. She also suggested that the F.D. would intercede to stop the book burning.

You would think that this would fit in though with the time and place restrictions on free speech. This is sort of like yelling "terrorist with bomb" at a NFL football game. It is extremely stupid and a dangerous thing to do. Plus, it is an action which goes beyond just mere speech.

to him by covering him and his actions 24/7.
It is a classic for showing exactly where the priorities of the media are.
If it bleeds it leads and if they can help make it bleed they do just that.
Like politicians they have no morals or values or concern for we the people.

btk

I do not condone the burning of the Quran just as I would not condone the burning of the Torah or Bibles.

I also understand that the Mosque location in NYC is guaranteed by our Constitution. What I cannnot get an understanding of, is the reasons given for actions that may certainly take place if done. or for that matter, the actions already taken even before the book burning. We saw in the TV News the burning of the American Flag and the effergy burnings in Afghanistan

Where is the quid pro quo? Our leaders say that these actions will result in more recruiting of radical more radical Islamic Fundamentalists, Jihadists and violence against America. So if the Mosque is located where the Iman wants it, close to Ground Zero, and the FL Pastor does not burn the Quran, what will be the result? Will we see Peace and a reduction in violence? Not likely, based on recent history

Seems to me, that there will only be continued violence in the future and it wont be reduced or eliminated if the Quran is not burned or if the Mosque is built where planned. When will we hear from those we worry about offending, when violence against the West takes place?

To get a better understanding of those we are worried about offending, consider viewing this clip of an interview with a Jihadist on CNN's GPS program. http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/wor...int.jihadi.cnn

Originally Posted by Hancle704

I do not condone the burning of the Quran just as I would not condone the burning of the Torah or Bibles.

I also understand that the Mosque location in NYC is guaranteed by our Constitution. What I cannnot get an understanding of, is the reasons given for actions that may certainly take place if done. or for that matter, the actions already taken even before the book burning. We saw in the TV News the burning of the American Flag and the effergy burnings in Afghanistan

Where is the quid pro quo? Our leaders say that these actions will result in more recruiting of radical more radical Islamic Fundamentalists, Jihadists and violence against America. So if the Mosque is located where the Iman wants it, close to Ground Zero, and the FL Pastor does not burn the Quran, what will be the result? Will we see Peace and a reduction in violence? Not likely, based on recent history

Seems to me, that there will only be continued violence in the future and it wont be reduced or eliminated if the Quran is not burned or if the Mosque is built where planned. When will we hear from those we worry about offending, when violence against the West takes place?

To get a better understanding of those we are worried about offending, consider viewing this clip of an interview with a Jihadist on CNN's GPS program. http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/wor...int.jihadi.cnn

This "Jihadist" probably thinks the CIA is behind the pastor's plan of burning the Koran in Gainesville. What surprises me is that this extreme radicalist "Muslim" Anjem Choudary used to be a lawyer. He seems to blame everything else on the CIA.

i read a joke today which is apropos here...Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit...Wisdom is not putting one in a fruit salad....just as the mosque supporters have a "right" to build, and just as this pastor has a "right" to burn, widsom would do otherwise.

The Koran burning stunt has been cancelled. It sounds like the pastor will get a say on the NY City 9/11 site mosque getting moved.

I have been trying to hold my breath. But I can't. When are you people going to understand that these people are not radical jihadist. They are good Muslims. A good Muslim is one who follows the teachings of the Koran. They are required by their God to be sure that all the world is Muslim. They think that we are infidels. They think that we should be converted or killed. I encourage you to read the Koran. It is very clear and they follow it literally. They are good Muslims. These are the people commanded by their God to spread sharia law throughout the world. That is their intent. Those are their actions. When are we going to learn? Are we idiots? I think not. But we do have to get our heads out of our butts and realize what we are dealing with.

We are told that if this man burns the Koran it will cause problems and upset Muslims throughout the world. I don't necessarily think that it is a wise thing for this person to burn the Koran. But if somebody draws a picture of Mohammed is going to upset Muslims throughout the world. Most recently we have been told that if Muslims are not allowed to build the Ground Zero mosque where they wish to build it, it will upset Muslims throughout the world.

Don't you know when you are being jerked around? Muslims are forcing their way into our society in ways that we do not want them to. We are being told that we must allow them to or we will upset them.

When we going to learn? When are You going to learn?

Just some thoughts.

Yoda