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OK I got it now...to obtuse for me.

Soundspretty STRAIGHT to me!

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This " group " LGBT are comprised of several subgroups and most often in day to day life they are not really supportive of one another just ask them .
That said these groups comprise a very small % of the US population but they have been taking all of the attention in the public square for some time now and no matter how many victories they score they are relentless at taking up the public square . It`s never enough and in the meantime our entire country is falling apart and we have become a weak nation internationally .
But hey lest get all worked up over a baker in Iowa who does not want to bake a cake for a couple of girls !

Give me their phone number and I'll give them a call. What an idiot!

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Soundspretty STRAIGHT to me!

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We understand but don't agree with it. If I were in the jury, I'd fight for nullification, it's an unjust law to FORCE anyone to do business with anyone they don't want to do business with. You shouldn't become a public slave because you decided to sell your cakes for a living. Do ALL businesses have to register as "private clubs" to avoid these intrusive, unjust, "laws"?

You can't always get what you want.

You realize we are talking about the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Do you consider that law intrusive or unjust?

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You realize we are talking about the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Do you consider that law intrusive or unjust?

Only when it is abused or used by those in the group who trend to exploitation of the intent. Especially those who measure everything in terms of what they think is owed to them just because they are a member of that group.

And in our current mentality and permissive society we buckle to everything that is exploited. The only criteria seems to be if you are black you must be right!!

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Especially those who measure everything in terms of what they think is owed to them just because they are a member of that group.

And in our current mentality and permissive society we buckle to everything that is exploited. The only criteria seems to be if you are black you must be right!!

...and we have our weekly winner of The Villages Tea Party "White Sheet With Matching Hood" award! It will be presented at the weekly cross burning ceremony. Congratulations!

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...and we have our weekly winner of The Villages Tea Party "White Sheet With Matching Hood" award! It will be presented at the weekly cross burning ceremony. Congratulations!

How many times have you been awarded the Darwin award?

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You realize we are talking about the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Do you consider that law intrusive or unjust?

The Civil Rights Act 1964 was highly political, redundant and the over reaching by the federal government . Forced school integration, Affirmative Action programs and racial preference for college/university entry are/were intrusive and unjust. In essence all that flowed from the Civil Rights Act has been discriminatory in nature and as such an abridgment of every citizens rights. So yes the law was/is intrusive and the law was/is unjust.

Meantime the assault on religious freedom/liberty continues. The concerted effort by the gay community with a little help from their useful idiot friends in the news media, Hollywood etc continue intrusive and unjust demands of ordinary citizens accusing them of crimes . The economic pressure placed by them and their useful idiot is now taking its toll on corporations who do not want to get caught up in boycotts, etc. So now we have government telling citizens that can't practice their faith as they believe and corporations telling their employees via employee handbooks they can't practice their faith as they believe. An employee wrote in a newsletter that he quit Home Depot because of their support of Gay Pride Parades and would not participate. Were will all this end? But it will end badly.

One poster keeps referring to me as high and mighty and I cringe at the thought that whoever this poster is s/he can't see that what s/he calls high and mighty as my plea/prayer for clarity of mind concerning this subject matter. Because this government continues under the guise of "common good" to strip citizens of their freedoms and some of these unfortunates are applauding the government as they do

Personal Best Regards:

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How many times have you been awarded the Darwin award?

He has won all the smart a$$ response awards so maybe the dribble put forth can go into another who gives a what he said category!

Originally Posted by Guest

The Civil Rights Act 1964 was highly political, redundant and the over reaching by the federal government . Forced school integration, Affirmative Action programs and racial preference for college/university entry are/were intrusive and unjust. In essence all that flowed from the Civil Rights Act has been discriminatory in nature and as such an abridgment of every citizens rights. So yes the law was/is intrusive and the law was/is unjust.

Meantime the assault on religious freedom/liberty continues. The concerted effort by the gay community with a little help from their useful idiot friends in the news media, Hollywood etc continue intrusive and unjust demands of ordinary citizens accusing them of crimes . The economic pressure placed by them and their useful idiot is now taking its toll on corporations who do not want to get caught up in boycotts, etc. So now we have government telling citizens that can't practice their faith as they believe and corporations telling their employees via employee handbooks they can't practice their faith as they believe. An employee wrote in a newsletter that he quit Home Depot because of their support of Gay Pride Parades and would not participate. Were will all this end? But it will end badly.

One poster keeps referring to me as high and mighty and I cringe at the thought that whoever this poster is s/he can't see that what s/he calls high and mighty as my plea/prayer for clarity of mind concerning this subject matter. Because this government continues under the guise of "common good" to strip citizens of their freedoms and some of these unfortunates are applauding the government as they do

Personal Best Regards:

You and I have had some discussions on micro-aggression in the past. And I am not the poster you refer to above.
In my opinion, the micro-aggression movement is all about people, who in the past were subjected to discrimination, but now in the age of political correctness, have less and less injury. So now they have to create some... but now the tide is beginning to turn.

The Microaggression Farce | City Journal

Microaggressions and the Rise of Victimhood Culture - The Atlantic

By the same token Christianity has been the dominant religion in the United States for a long time however, that tide is turning as well. I don't see saying Season Greetings as contributing to the "War on Christmas".

I remember the Civil Rights movement in the 60's even though I was only 10ish at the time. No business now would even think of refusing service to a person of color.

I respect your right to Freedom of Religion but I fail to see how making a cake for a gay wedding, especially if it is picked up from a bakery, could impinge on your freedom of religion. I can understand how making a minster or priest officiate at a gay wedding is unreasonable.

At the time of the Civil Right Act people of color were subjected to discrimination in everyday life. In the 50's gays were hunted by the police, the military and even Congressional panels. I really fail to see how this act could be deemed over reach.

These are just my thoughts on the subject and are not aimed at anyone or any religion.

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How many times have you been awarded the Darwin award?

The government keeps saving him and we get more and more just like him...should have been weeded out, but was protected and saved.

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You and I have had some discussions on micro-aggression in the past. And I am not the poster you refer to above.
In my opinion, the micro-aggression movement is all about people, who in the past were subjected to discrimination, but now in the age of political correctness, have less and less injury. So now they have to create some... but now the tide is beginning to turn.

The Microaggression Farce | City Journal

Microaggressions and the Rise of Victimhood Culture - The Atlantic

By the same token Christianity has been the dominant religion in the United States for a long time however, that tide is turning as well. I don't see saying Season Greetings as contributing to the "War on Christmas".

I remember the Civil Rights movement in the 60's even though I was only 10ish at the time. No business now would even think of refusing service to a person of color.

I respect your right to Freedom of Religion but I fail to see how making a cake for a gay wedding, especially if it is picked up from a bakery, could impinge on your freedom of religion. I can understand how making a minster or priest officiate at a gay wedding is unreasonable.

At the time of the Civil Right Act people of color were subjected to discrimination in everyday life. In the 50's gays were hunted by the police, the military and even Congressional panels. I really fail to see how this act could be deemed over reach.

These are just my thoughts on the subject and are not aimed at anyone or any religion.

In the actual Cases which have been " created " to provoke the desired response . The Gay Couples involved were insisting that the Bakery be present at their Reception to ensure that the cake was safely delivered and presented at the appropriate time .

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Give me their phone number and I'll give them a call. What an idiot!

Ok well here goes . One of my daughters was an International Figure Skating Competitor .
Most of her coaches , choreographers , music producers , costume makers ,
and off ice ballet coaches were Gay Men . Some of their names most people would recognize .
I spent may a long weekend in many rinks in the US and Canada sitting in the stands with them .
What I learned was that Gay Men do not care for Lesbians or Transgender people . When I asked them about the LGBT " Movement " they all said the same thing " political convenience " .
And believe me they use some very derogatory descriptors of any group of people who are Gay Women , Trans-sexual and as they call us " The Breeders " .
That was behind my point but hey what do I know ? As you said I am an " IDIOT ".
Because in your life experience you know far more than me .

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Ok well here goes . One of my daughters was an International Figure Skating Competitor .
Most of her coaches , choreographers , music producers , costume makers ,
and off ice ballet coaches were Gay Men . Some of their names most people would recognize .
I spent may a long weekend in many rinks in the US and Canada sitting in the stands with them .
What I learned was that Gay Men do not care for Lesbians or Transgender people . When I asked them about the LGBT " Movement " they all said the same thing " political convenience " .
And believe me they use some very derogatory descriptors of any group of people who are Gay Women , Trans-sexual and as they call us " The Breeders " .
That was behind my point but hey what do I know ? As you said I am an " IDIOT ".
Because in your life experience you know far more than me .

That's the problem, most people with an opinion about something HEARD that opinion from someone else and have no real life experience.

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In the actual Cases which have been " created " to provoke the desired response . The Gay Couples involved were insisting that the Bakery be present at their Reception to ensure that the cake was safely delivered and presented at the appropriate time .

After further review here are the actual facts of the case:

https://www.oregon.gov/boli/SiteAsse...Cakes%20FO.pdf

In Nov 2011 this couple purchased a wedding cake from Sweet Cakes for one of couples mother. There was no incident. In 2013 they went back to Sweet Cakes to order a wedding cake for themselves. When asked for the Bride and Grooms name the couple responded with 2 women's names. At that point the baker refused to bake the cake and called the women an "Abomination".

Is was in no way a make up case. I have included the actual ruling from the case.

Wherever you got your information it appears they misled you about the facts of the case. Perhaps you could provide a link to the source of your information for review.