[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Drakeswood

Hone in the Pacific drenching the Hawaiian Islands-particularly the Islanf of Hawaii’s Hilo side…

Higher ocean temperatures worldwide mean that the air holds more moisture - so greater rain.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by RICH1

weather is what old people talk about...and now it's Hurricane season adding additional stress to the heart..

Not being aware of something that one should be aware of can cause long-term stress.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

# 3 Tonga has a minimal effect on world weather. Interesting fact .....hurricane Beayl was the EARLIEST cat 5 Atlantic Hurricane on RECORD. There is STILL an above normal probability (90%) of a major Hurricane before Sept. 24. Sept 15 is the peak on the graph of all US hurricanes.
Note........I don't think that the Sahara dust is STILL coming, but I need to check that out to be sure.

Sorry, Tonga is they most important climate event to happen in over 2,000 years. It was an unprecedented event which is now causing unprecedented global warming -- because the DATA shows it.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

The AMO and PDO graphs are ocean index temperature data - and very important in short-term climate change. Most don't know this because the media will not talk about this data because it exposes the fraud behind the CO2 control knob theory. The Weather Club talk will discuss this and more in detail in November ... The Villages Weather Club

"CO2 control knob theory"......that sparks my curiosity big-time. A knob would INFER that some human or humans are controlling the CO2 in the Earth's atmosphere for some either grand good or villainous reason. Since that is unlikely then I will fall back to what I have read about CO2 and its effects in the last 30 years. CO2 production from the world's factories and automobiles has increased PAST the point that the world's plants and oceans can absorb all of the CO2 produced by the increased population of the world. Coral reefs are dying and world temperatures have increased dramatically in the last 30 years. Actually 2023 and 2024 have set records for HEAT related DEATHS in the US and likely also worldwide. Amazing----the price we (as humans) are willing to pay for our unwillingness to SIMPLY drive more E-vehicles and fewer ICE-vehicles. Ah ......that old buggaboo .....GREED and human fear of change has hit us right in the over-cooked planet;s gut !!!!!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

Sorry, Tonga is they most important climate event to happen in over 2,000 years. It was an unprecedented event which is now causing unprecedented global warming -- because the DATA shows it.

That is SO very TRUE about the VAPORIZED H2O and that is why scientists INITIALLY thought that Tonga would have a BIG effect on the world's temperatures. But, as I wrote in a much earlier (weeks earlier) post - the University of Texas REAL climate scientists state that after greater analysis they determine that Tonga has had a minimal effect on world Climate. Anyway The Tonga Eruption began way back in Dec. 2022 so has ZERO relevance to Climate today. Population increases and CO2 production from automobiles and industry are the culprits. Maybe I could present that at the Village Weather Club. I would change a reasonable price for that.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

Sorry, Tonga is they most important climate event to happen in over 2,000 years. It was an unprecedented event which is now causing unprecedented global warming -- because the DATA shows it.

That graph, toward the right end, looks a lot like the graph of increased world POPULATION in last 30 years.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

"CO2 control knob theory"......that sparks my curiosity big-time. A knob would INFER that some human or humans are controlling the CO2 in the Earth's atmosphere for some either grand good or villainous reason. Since that is unlikely then I will fall back to what I have read about CO2 and its effects in the last 30 years. CO2 production from the world's factories and automobiles has increased PAST the point that the world's plants and oceans can absorb all of the CO2 produced by the increased population of the world. Coral reefs are dying and world temperatures have increased dramatically in the last 30 years. Actually 2023 and 2024 have set records for HEAT related DEATHS in the US and likely also worldwide. Amazing----the price we (as humans) are willing to pay for our unwillingness to SIMPLY drive more E-vehicles and fewer ICE-vehicles. Ah ......that old buggaboo .....GREED and human fear of change has hit us right in the over-cooked planet;s gut !!!!!

None of your articles address the UAH data because it doesn't fix their fake CO2 control knob theory. In other words they are illegitimate (junk science) articles because they ignore key data. Only Tonga's water vapor can explain the 2023/2024 temperature spike. This will again be presented Sep 6 at 4 PM at Lake Miona.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Not being aware of something that one should be aware of can cause long-term stress.

If one isn’t aware of something, how can it cause long term stress?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by asianthree

If one isn’t aware of something, how can it cause long term stress?

Good question. Let's say you are age 25 or 30 and have a good job and lots of friends. You get in a habit of drinking a few beers every day after work. You might NOT realize that you are becoming addicted to alcohol AND you keep gaining weight. You go on for years drinking with friends.One day you wake up with a heart attack. You were not aware of your problem until it was too late. Going forward, you have a bunch of pathetic unhealthy years. You end up with long term stress. There could be other examples, also.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

None of your articles address the UAH data because it doesn't fix their fake CO2 control knob theory. In other words they are illegitimate (junk science) articles because they ignore key data. Only Tonga's water vapor can explain the 2023/2024 temperature spike. This will again be presented Sep 6 at 4 PM at Lake Miona.

I did NOT mention any articles. Not sure what the UAH is (universal atmospheric have-nots is) ? And now THEY have a FAKE control knob theory. I am having trouble interpreting whatever the idea there is ?

[sounding]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I did NOT mention any articles. Not sure what the UAH is (universal atmospheric have-nots is) ? And now THEY have a FAKE control knob theory. I am having trouble interpreting whatever the idea there is ?

That's the whole purpose of climate alarmism, it is to create pseudo science designed to demonize CO2. CO2 is not and has never created climate change. All the assumptions you make (about corals etc) are all derived from climate alarmist articles designed to fool you. Regarding UAH, it's the Univ of Alabama at Huntsville, which is a NASA supported activity providing the world's best global temperature measurements -- which clearly show that Tonga "water vapor" (and not CO2) is actually causing significant global warming -- because there is no other logical explanation.

[Two Bills]

Climate change: Surging seas are coming for us all, warns UN chief

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Climate change: Surging seas are coming for us all, warns UN chief

I don't think we should be too quick to dismiss predictions based on solid science. After all, didn't Al Gore predict way back in 1992 that the north pole ice cap would be completely gone by 2006? And it happened, just as he said!

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

I don't think we should be too quick to dismiss predictions based on solid science. After all, didn't Al Gore predict way back in 1992 that the north pole ice cap would be completely gone by 2006? And it happened, just as he said!

Not sure how Al Gore's meaningful work relates to 2024. There is a lot more data now than back then supporting global warming caused by pollution.

Bad logic does not support the denial of global warming.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Not sure how Al Gore's meaningful work relates to 2024. There is a lot more data now than back then supporting global warming caused by pollution.

Bad logic does not support the denial of global warming.

I'm sorry, it seems the highlighted word is misspelled-----it should be MEANINGLESS.

And the obvious "logic" (aside from all the data that shows man-made global warming is a hoax and a scam) is that human activity can have negligible effects on millions of years of repetitive cycles driven by the power of the sun and Earth's orbital momentum. To quote Mr. Spock----"to think otherwise is illogical"