[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by mtdjed

The above is not from fact but a statement of opinion with no factual basis. The fact is that the oceans are rising per measurement. 8 to 9 inches over the last 140 years, 4 inches of that in the last 30 years. And a reported current rate of .15 inches per year. Estimates say it could rise 10-12 inches by 2050, far from the statement above.

I have included the source of the above numbers.

Tracking 30 Years of Sea Level Rise

Incidentally, the statement that most of Florida coastline will be underwater is nonsensical. By definition coastline is the boundary between where land meets water. The coastline may move, but it will still be there.

Do your best to save our earth but be smart.

Ok so by 2050 the ocean rise compared to today is 1 foot. Much of the CURRENT US coast will be underwater. The US Navy has plans to move their main Atlantic bases. Coast and coast line, to me, are pretty much the same. It's like a distinction without a difference. Florida people and people in other states will have to move inland by 2050 if the US does NOT start producing less CO2 from factories and tailpipes.

[Normal]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Ok so by 2050 the ocean rise compared to today is 1 foot. Much of the CURRENT US coast will be underwater. The US Navy has plans to move their main Atlantic bases. Coast and coast line, to me, are pretty much the same. It's like a distinction without a difference. Florida people and people in other states will have to move inland by 2050 if the US does NOT start producing less CO2 from factories and tailpipes.

Oceans have been rising for centuries. Venice can barely keep up. Amsterdam continues to adapt. A much newer New Orleans is struggling with adaptations. Oceans rise and they fall. Many of the ancient underwater cities we have now that divers go to were at one time on very dry land. Co2 isn’t really a cause to worry about. You won’t stop warming or cooling.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by Normal

Oceans have been rising for centuries. Venice can barely keep up. Amsterdam continues to adapt. A much newer New Orleans is struggling with adaptations. Oceans rise and they fall. Many of the ancient underwater cities we have now that divers go to were at one time on very dry land. Co2 isn’t really a cause to worry about. You won’t stop warming or cooling.

Ditto. Most don't realize that New Orleans lands are sinking faster than the seas are rising. This is due to ground-water removal, land compaction from growing infrastructure, and lack of Mississippi River flooding (because of dikes) - which years ago replenished land-compaction with new dirt. In other words -- New Orleans flooding problems are primarily man-made.

[Papa_lecki]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Population increase might be lowered by nuclear wars (a bright spot)?

ADMINS - how is this guy allowed to keep an account here, he is actively encouraging a global Armageddon with nuclear war. To lower population.

for a while the global warming thing was cute, but this is ridiculous.

[Papa_lecki]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Ok so by 2050 the ocean rise compared to today is 1 foot. Much of the CURRENT US coast will be underwater. The US Navy has plans to move their main Atlantic bases. Coast and coast line, to me, are pretty much the same. It's like a distinction without a difference. Florida people and people in other states will have to move inland by 2050 if the US does NOT start producing less CO2 from factories and tailpipes.

Al Gore said during a speech at the Copenhagen Climate Conference in 2009 that there was "a 75% chance that the entire north polar ice cap, during some of the summer months, could be completely ice-free within the next five to seven years."

In 1970, Kenneth Watt said “ The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but 11 degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”

In 1974, in time magazine “Telltale signs are everywhere, from the unexpected persistence and thickness of pack ice in the waters around Iceland to the southward migration of a warmth-loving creature like the armadillo from the Midwest. Since the 1940s the mean global temperature has dropped about 2.7 F.”

On June 30, 1989, the Associated Press shad an article, “Rising Seas Could Obliterate Nations,” containing a jaw-dropping opener: “A senior UN environmental official (Noel Brown) says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.”

Where they wrong and you are right???

[LeRoySmith]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Florida people and people in other states will have to move inland by 2050

Are you telling me we are going to have ocean front property someday? Sweet, I'ma buy an old junker and let it idle nonstop.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by mtdjed

The above is not from fact but a statement of opinion with no factual basis. The fact is that the oceans are rising per measurement. 8 to 9 inches over the last 140 years, 4 inches of that in the last 30 years. And a reported current rate of .15 inches per year. Estimates say it could rise 10-12 inches by 2050, far from the statement above.

I have included the source of the above numbers.

Tracking 30 Years of Sea Level Rise

Incidentally, the statement that most of Florida coastline will be underwater is nonsensical. By definition coastline is the boundary between where land meets water. The coastline may move, but it will still be there.

Do your best to save our earth but be smart.

OK. From that very same article ------ "Sea level rise caused by HUMANS DWARFS the natural cycles. It is happening FASTER and FASTER with every decade." Note : New Delhi recorded the earth's highest temperature (126 deg F) recently. By 2050 ocean coral will have DIED down to 5%. Each of the last 15 years the earth's temperatures has increased. Florida is BAKING right now. As the earth's population increases more CO2 is produced by factories and gas and diesel vehicles. There is NOTHING on the horizon to break that cycle.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Normal

Our worst recorded season in America was in 1780. Over 28,000 people died. Have we learned not to construct along the coast, nope.

1780 Atlantic hurricane season - Wikipedia

The state of Oregon has learned. They allow NO building within 1/2 mile of the average ocean waterline.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Normal

Oceans have been rising for centuries. Venice can barely keep up. Amsterdam continues to adapt. A much newer New Orleans is struggling with adaptations. Oceans rise and they fall. Many of the ancient underwater cities we have now that divers go to were at one time on very dry land. Co2 isn’t really a cause to worry about. You won’t stop warming or cooling.

I am talking UNPRECEDENTED rapid warming caused by increased human population, which is producing increased CO2 from factories and cars. Also, mass human migrations away from the equator both northward and southward all around the world.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

OK. From that very same article ------ "Sea level rise caused by HUMANS DWARFS the natural cycles. It is happening FASTER and FASTER with every decade." Note : New Delhi recorded the earth's highest temperature (126 deg F) recently. By 2050 ocean coral will have DIED down to 5%. Each of the last 15 years the earth's temperatures has increased. Florida is BAKING right now. As the earth's population increases more CO2 is produced by factories and gas and diesel vehicles. There is NOTHING on the horizon to break that cycle.

Why do corals huddle around the world's warmest oceans? And why did Professor LaJeunesse from Penn State say ... "The fossil record shows that today's reef-building corals exploded in diversity around 160 million years ago" ... when global temperatures and CO2 were much higher than today?

[Normal]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I am talking UNPRECEDENTED rapid warming caused by increased human population, which is producing increased CO2 from factories and cars. Also, mass human migrations away from the equator both northward and southward all around the world.

That fits YOUR narrative, however not geological science and discovery. I would rather stick with science and evidence. Discoveries around the Black Sea demonstrate massive global level flooding approximately 7500:years ago. Like I stated earlier. There are entire cities under water this very day that have been there for quite some time. It took quite a volume of water to place them at their current elevation below sea level. This was all of course well before the Industrial Revolution or population increases.

Here is a fun list to go through and some are fantastic dive sites…
Top 15 Underwater Cities That You Can Visit

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by billethkid

One can just see the glee in the meteorologists reporting as June 1st approaches.
While some of what they report is needed and informative.....it is overwhelmed by the ongoing amount of useless information.

Ah get ready, it's SALES season, get your batteries now, flashlights, lanterns, canned tuna and peanut butter, grab some cases of water NOW, before it's all gone...... retired here from south Florida so don't want to make fun of anyone trying to take precautions, but it's really, REALLY, over done in this part of the state we found. If it makes people feel less stressed and more secure, I'm all for it, but it's just not a motivator for me run to H.D.....LOL !

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

OK. From that very same article ------ "Sea level rise caused by HUMANS DWARFS.

I never knew the little folk emitted more gasses than the bigger ones!

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

I never knew the little folk emitted more gasses than the bigger ones!

As Clint Eastwood would say, he is a legend in his own mind

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Pairadocs

Ah get ready, it's SALES season, get your batteries now, flashlights, lanterns, canned tuna and peanut butter, grab some cases of water NOW, before it's all gone...... retired here from south Florida so don't want to make fun of anyone trying to take precautions, but it's really, REALLY, over done in this part of the state we found. If it makes people feel less stressed and more secure, I'm all for it, but it's just not a motivator for me run to H.D.....LOL !

How come we are not told to buy more toilet paper? Asking for a friend