[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by sounding

i don't have to prove anything. I'm not making the claim that man-made co2 is causing climate change. So tell me, how much has man-made co2 warmed the earth last year?

in your video with cnn you state that 97% of government funding goes to researchers who are validators of climate change. Anti climate changers get 3%. Now maybe open dialogue can start when your audience has facts not only opinions.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by Worldseries27

in your video with cnn you state that 97% of government funding goes to researchers who are validators of climate change. Anti climate changers get 3%. Now maybe open dialogue can start when your audience has facts not only opinions.

Have you tried to get government funding for a global cooling study? There are numerous cases where funding was not only denied, but existing funding was removed from those (often tenured professors) who decided to instead study how the sun (versus CO2) affects climate. Students today are faced with either doing CO2-warming research or get no faculty support for alternative interests. Honest climate science is being set back many years under this junk-science movement. It took the Vatican 350 years to acknowledge they were wrong to imprison Galileo for life for talking about how the Earth revolves around the Sun -- and not the reverse ... and let's hope it doesn't take 350 years to recognize the Sun controls our climate -- not CO2.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

Actually, that's what Obama's chief scientist (John Holdren) indicated ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQSSOnJgPpY

That IS a cute, well-produced link that I would suggest was sponsored by the US oil and gas industry. The actual facts are today that the World is experiencing great HEAT problems. There is MASSIVE population dislocation from Africa and South America toward the North. World temperatures for the LAST 7 out of 8 years have been record HEAT. The reason that snow is increasing like in the Western US is NOT because those areas are cooler than normal - it is because they are warmer and the oceans and lakes are warmer than normal. And warm air holds more moisture than cold air, therefore we have large amounts of snow. Rush Limbaugh used to wait until December or January when airports were closing up north and say, " See ALL that snow PROVES that we have global cooling". Very clever of Mr. Rush but he was using OIL Company propaganda instead of scientific facts. I imagine that most people in The Villages that take the time to do a little Google research will come to the conclusion that the earth is WARMING. The Gulf of Mexico water was at RECORD temperatures this summer and produced the GIANT hurricane IAN. I worry about next summer and fall.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

That IS a cute, well-produced link that I would suggest was sponsored by the US oil and gas industry. The actual facts are today that the World is experiencing great HEAT problems. There is MASSIVE population dislocation from Africa and South America toward the North. World temperatures for the LAST 7 out of 8 years have been record HEAT. The reason that snow is increasing like in the Western US is NOT because those areas are cooler than normal - it is because they are warmer and the oceans and lakes are warmer than normal. And warm air holds more moisture than cold air, therefore we have large amounts of snow. Rush Limbaugh used to wait until December or January when airports were closing up north and say, " See ALL that snow PROVES that we have global cooling". Very clever of Mr. Rush but he was using OIL Company propaganda instead of scientific facts. I imagine that most people in The Villages that take the time to do a little Google research will come to the conclusion that the earth is WARMING. The Gulf of Mexico water was at RECORD temperatures this summer and produced the GIANT hurricane IAN. I worry about next summer and fall.

Sorry ... not only was Holdren hired by Obama, but that John Holdren video was sponsored by the Obama White House -- that's why it has "WH.gov" in the upper-right corner. Of course, in the long term, the earth is warming -- but there is no proof that man-made CO2 causes it -- unless you have that data to share. And regarding Ian, that was a small storm compared to Typhoon Tip (see image). Tell me ... why have hurricane numbers dramatically dropped over the past 2 years -- and why won't the Weather Channel talk about it? Why has CO2 been under-performing so badly?

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by christinabruce

john coleman is the founder of the weather channel, the original weatherman on good morning america and the lead meteorologist here at kusi-tv.

https://youtu.be/aa3oa_2s4qy

i'm a little confused. You say john coleman is the lead meteorologist at kusi-tv

[Ksfirefighter]

Originally Posted by sounding

Global warming is producing the first of several large cold and snowy storms out West -- and yet to come Nor'easters out East. Notice that The Weather Channel (TWC) no longer talks about "global warming." They do, however, sometimes mention the minor cooling affects of La Nina, but ignore the major cooling affects of the PDO. Find out why this massive cooling is happening and why TWC is afraid to talk about the PDO. This and much more will be discussed Dec 15 at 1:30 PM at Laurel Manor.

And Santa Clause is coming to town!!!

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Ksfirefighter

And Santa Clause is coming to town!!!

I never got the pony he promised me as a child. Santa lied. I'll never trust him again.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

Yes, worms cause global warming ... The power of earthworm poop and how it could influence climate change | CBC News So the more that are eaten, the cooler the earth will become.

The link about earthworm poop said that most likely the effect would be like a forest fire, which produces CO2 which will drift upward into the upper atmosphere and form a "blanket". The blanket traps heat from the sun and adds to Global Warming. The same process occurs from the man-made burning of fossil fuels in gasoline and diesel engines. So, earthworm migration further north BECAUSE of Global Warming will THEN ADD more Global Warming to the equation of the Earth's heat problems. The only HOPE on the horizon is California's upcoming mandate for electric vehicles and the corresponding adoption of E-vehicles in the rest of the US.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

I met Coleman at an American Meteorological Society event years ago, after he sold the Weather Channel, after which the Channel started going downhill and now shows junk shows like truck accident events. No wonder today's public has become climate clueless. Here's another great Coleman video ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RirQpfQUqX4

We all saw what happened here in Florida in October with record heat in the Gulf and the large KILLER hurricane IAN. Pretty hard to ignore that event, which will take Florida years to recover from - and strong hurricanes likely next year. Everyone is complaining about the masses of people migrating northward to the US southern border. And it is the SAME in Europe. And what is causing this migration? Why, its Global Warming making areas of South America and Africa uninhabitable. Trying to ignore these facts and the cause being MAN-MADE Global Warming is becoming more and more impossible despite the naysayers, that are highly paid by the Oil and Gas Conglomerate with their sophisticated propaganda!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by loutapes

The large amounts of snow in the west is a Blessing for that area. They have had drought conditions for years. The current weather will provide the water to be used for the growing season and help avoid forest fires. Not every weather condition is a crisis. Mother Nature usually knows what to do. If the world changes it won’t be because of Global warming it will be because of tyrants running the world who unleash their fury. That’s a subject for another day.

Wars burn up a lot of fossil fuel. So, that would add to warming.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by JoelJohnson

How many "scientists" said smoking wasn't bad for you? Back in the day?

Cigarette lobbyists then and oil and gas lobbyists today. Slowly and eventually, the truth MUST be faced head-on.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by fcgiii

points to ponder

1. The global climate is global. So chatting about this place or that is meaningless.

2. The earth's climate is always changing. 1000 years ago Greenland was green.

3. Wrecking the US energy industry to cool the planet while China, India and the developing world increase their use of coal and gas makes no sense.

4. The only practical green energy source is nuclear. But climate zealots hate nuclear.

5. The real goal of the climate change agenda is government control of the energy industry.

Newer nuclear energy plants are becoming safer by design. Warfare would be an exception that is hard to design against. More like a human nature problem that won't be solved in our lifetimes.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Beyond The Wall

2 million-year-old DNA from northern Greenland has revealed that the region was once home to mastodons, lemmings and geese, offering unprecedented insights into how climate change can shape ecosystems.

"The breakthrough in ancient DNA analysis pushes back the DNA record by 1m years to a time when the Arctic region was 11-19 degrees C warmer than the present day. The analysis reveals that the northern peninsula of Greenland, now a polar desert, once featured boreal forests of poplar and birch trees teeming with wildlife. The work offers clues to how species might adapt, or be genetically engineered, to survive the threat of rapid global heating."

11 to 19 degrees warmer, and yet the planet survived -- without ice on Greenland.

Amazing.

It's as if not only is global warning bogus but on top of that, global warming is actually a good thing.

So Global Warming is a GOOD thing? Then, I guess that the Gulf water record temperature that helped Hurricane IAN become such a LARGE killer hurricane as it ruined and took the lives of many on the Florida coast........I guess that was a GOOD thing. And I guess it is also a GOOD thing that insurance companies are jacking up insurance payments for ALL Floridians - and many are leaving Florida altogether.

What caused those insurance companies to leave........ if we are in a SO-CALLED cooling period or a SO-CALLED normal period? I think NOT.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

CO2 is not a pollutant, but garbage is -- they are 2 separate things. The CO2 problem is easily fixed -- just do nothing -- because it's not a problem. The garbage problem is easily fixed by using the trillions saved from fighting the non-problem called CO2. Just hire more cops, let the prosecutors do their jobs, and bring back public punishment. It's amazing how the Egyptians left us wonderful monuments called pyramids. And it's also amazing to see the legacy pyramids that modern society has created -- trash mountains.

Normal CO2 is NOT a pollutant. But EXCESS CO2 from a large AND INCREASING earth population burning fossil fuels IS a POLLUTION PROBLEM. The earth's land mass, decreasing forests, atmosphere, and the oceans are NOT able to handle the EXCESS. Human population increased from 1 billion in 1800 to 8 billion today. More people means more burning of fossil fuel and MORE of a pollution problem. if the earth had the population that it did in 1900, we would NOT be talking about Global Warming.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

CO2 is not a pollutant, but garbage is -- they are 2 separate things. The CO2 problem is easily fixed -- just do nothing -- because it's not a problem. The garbage problem is easily fixed by using the trillions saved from fighting the non-problem called CO2. Just hire more cops, let the prosecutors do their jobs, and bring back public punishment. It's amazing how the Egyptians left us wonderful monuments called pyramids. And it's also amazing to see the legacy pyramids that modern society has created -- trash mountains.

Garbage would be producing spontaneous combustion, which would produce heat and cause some MORE excess CO2. So, it is incongruous to be against excess garbage, yet for or even denying Global Warming.