[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Research shows the opposite.

Yes, "research"

Re-read posts #24-27. This has been explained a hundred times.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Yes, "research"

Re-read posts #24-27. This has been explained a hundred times.

Hardly.

Global warming is a rather settled matter. That is what scientists do. Gather facts using a hypothesis and then reach a conclusion based on their understanding of those facts.

[MrFlorida]

Whever happened to acid rain ? We were all gonna die, remember ?

[sounding]

Originally Posted by MrFlorida

Whever happened to acid rain ? We were all gonna die, remember ?

Acid rain was a pollution problem -- we fixed that.

Ozone hole was never proven to be human-caused.

CO2 pollution is a complete lie.

And yes we are all gonna die ... but will most likely live longer than our ancestors due, in part, to global warming and increasing CO2.

[AZ SLIM]

Originally Posted by AZ SLIM

This article came out yesterday. It's fairly long report on why their forecasts are turning out to be wrong again this year. Hurricane experts now predict below-normal activity into September'''s season peak | Fox Weather

As the OP I would like to conclude by pointing out that if they are so wrong about a few weeks of Hurricane season, why would anyone listen to them about what will happen decades from now. I am not rushing out to buy an EV, even though they may eventually force us to.

[MorTech]

CO2 has been pouring from the earth for billions of years and yet the atmosphere contains 0.04% CO2...Things that make you go, Huh. When someone says "settled science" it just reveals they don't know anything about science.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by AZ SLIM

As the OP I would like to conclude by pointing out that if they are so wrong about a few weeks of Hurricane season, why would anyone listen to them about what will happen decades from now. I am not rushing out to buy an EV, even though they may eventually force us to.

Ditto. You can believe your eyes or you can believe the lies. None of the Hurricane models have ever produced an accurate complete path forecast, just like none of the Climate models have ever produced an accurate climatic change forecast. Models are not data -- they are just a crude means to move assumptions about reality into the future.

[rsmurano]

I just watched the weather and they haven’t decreased the number of tropical storms or hurricanes since they came out with their dire predictions. So now we have 1/2 the time to get in 90% of the storms in. Now they are predicting that the hurricane season will go past November this year, and I wouldn’t be surprised that in the future they will make the hurricane season year round.
Most of us aren’t that gullible, but some are and want to push this doomsday agenda to its fullest.
I’m assuming the Weather Channel is getting paid by these doomsday promoters because the last couple of years, the Weather Channel has been saying this year is the worst ever, storms are getting worse/stronger, and they are pushing the agenda to create a new “Cat 6” rating for hurricanes. I stopped watching these clowns.
Last year, I thought it was funny that the weather channel told florida evacuees don’t use their EVs when leaving because there won’t be enough charging stations on the exit route when you run out of power and I like this 1, if caught in high waters, your EV can catch fire. That had to hurt when they said this.

[spinner1001]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

That is what scientists do. Gather facts using a hypothesis and then reach a conclusion based on their understanding of those facts.

That is what you imagine all scientists do. Fixed it.

Scientists are human and act on incentives, like other humans. You know that scientists have incentives other than altruism, right?

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

Just a few of the "reasons" I was able to find.


1: The stratosphere apparently has to be abnormally warm for heightened hurricane formation. “Strong cold anomalies are being detected in the stratosphere over Southern Hemisphere. The anomalous cooling results from the water vapor coming from the January Hunga Tonga eruption. Cooling on this scale has not been seen in modern satellite records, so this is a significant event.” (Andrej Fles, “Severe Weather Europe”, 29/08/2022)

2: Subsurface ocean temps are too cool to produce energetic la Nina, which is apparently essential for hurricane formation. “Right now, the subsurface temperatures are much cooler than during El Niño…The immediate near-surface temperatures are still warmer, but the subsurface water pool and the warm water pool have dissipated, and so once that pops to the surface, it becomes La Niña,” (Pitchstone waters dot com, April 9, 2024). I wonder--how do they measure "subsurface" ocean temps, and how far down?

3: Wind Shear isn’t doing what it is supposed to be doing. “upper-level winds over the Atlantic tend to be stronger than usual, and thus stronger wind shear results. The faster air flow in the upper troposphere leads to faster wind speed with increasing height, making the upper atmosphere less favorable for tropical storm development.” (“Meet Wind Shear, the Phenomenon That Can Rip a Hurricane Apart” Zachary Handlos, Scientific American dot com, May 23, 2024)

4: Winds coming off the Sahara haven’t been as conducive to hurricane formation as usual. (Office of Response and Restoration, NOAA.GOV). A sort of confusing read.

5: “Hurricane Nadine in 2012 had dry Saharan air circulating near it—another potential inhibitor of intensification. In general, dry air can sink to the surface creating pools of cold air. The cold air often weakens the storm because it steals energy that would otherwise be available to the storm to grow stronger.” (“Since Katrina: NASA Advances Storm Models, Science”, Phys dot org, 8/21/2015

6” “Global warming is making the atmosphere more hostile to the formation of tropical cyclones.” (Andrea Thompson, Scientific American, 6/27/22).

7: “An unusual African monsoon season is not producing the sort of atmospheric seeds that typically go on to become hurricanes. Air high above the tropical Atlantic is so warm that it is actually preventing storms from brewing”. (Why Hurricane Season is Suddenly Quiet”, Scott Dance, The Washington Post). Note how this directly conflicts with Rationalization #1.

Anyway, there you have it. A hodgepodge of rationalizations, some apparently in direct contradiction to others. But all "scientific".

Geo-engineering and weather manipulation around the globe is causing anomolies that are unpredictable worldwide. Floods in Dubai from cloud seeding to grow grass where nature says grass doesn't grow.
Floods in CA.

Creating climate change has consequences the powers that be can't necessarily predict. Meteorologists are creating new language like "corn sweating" "heat domes" in the western parts of the US which in reality is natural traspiration being corrupted by layers of SAI's blocking natural weather transpiration and evaporation. Not to mention creating heat. They report "monsoons" and "cyclones" (saaay whaaaat????) in the mid-west parts of the US... yeah, totally normal weather if you listen to weather reporters.

If only one country played God with Stratospheric Aerosol Injections, cloud bleaching, seeding and other weather modification techniques to "control climate change" or "dim the sun" they might actually be able to tell climate engineering worked. With the whole world experimenting with weather they are creating climate change and it is wreaking havoc on natural weather change including pretty much the 9 months of drought FL has experienced until the last week or so. The Villages never used to feel like AZ until FL looked the other way regarding weather control.

TN has banned ALL weather modification. Good for them! Remember living creatures are not the experiment. The weather is.

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by AZ SLIM

As the OP I would like to conclude by pointing out that if they are so wrong about a few weeks of Hurricane season, why would anyone listen to them about what will happen decades from now. I am not rushing out to buy an EV, even though they may eventually force us to.

Why?

Because the correlation between knowledge and idealism is inverse.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by GizmoWhiskers

Geo-engineering and weather manipulation around the globe is causing anomolies that are unpredictable worldwide. Floods in Dubai from cloud seeding. Groing grass when nature says grass doesn't grow. Creating climate change has consequences the powers that be can't necessarily predict. Meteorologists are creating new language like "corn sweating" "heat domes" and "cyclones" (saaay whaaaat????) in the western parts of the US which in reality is natural traspiration being corrupted by stratospheric layers blocking nature. If only one country played God with Stratosphere Aerosol Injections, cloud bleaching, seeding and other weather modification techniques to "dim the sun" they could actually tell if it worked. With the whole world experimenting with weather they are creating climate change and it is wreaking havoc on natural weather change including pretty much the 9 months of drought FL has experienced until the last week or so. The Villages never used to feel like AZ until FL lookes the other way regarding weather control. TN has banned it. Good for them!

Nice post. Not the same old Faux News garbage.

[TimTinNewell]

Originally Posted by firefighter4u

If meteorologists aren't scaring you, they are not doing their job! lol

My favorite optic EVER was the t.v. meteorologist who was standing out in the approaching hurricane. He could barely stand, it was SO windy and scary! Then, in the background, two dudes go walking by each holding a cup of coffee as they strolled along chatting! HaHaHa!

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by TimTinNewell

My favorite optic EVER was the t.v. meteorologist who was standing out in the approaching hurricane. He could barely stand, it was SO windy and scary! Then, in the background, two dudes go walking by each holding a cup of coffee as they strolled along chatting! HaHaHa!

We have all kinds of weather events here in Florida that can and do kill people. Thanks to all the weather people who look out for us.

Not much thanks to the flat earth society members who deny science because Fox tells them to do so that big oil can make more bucks.

[TomSpasm]

The theory that all meteorologists and other scientists studying weather related phenomena have settled into the same wacky, ridiculous global warming narrative in order to save their jobs and feed their families is pretty amusing.