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Originally Posted by Ptmcbriz

Most of you need to learn the difference between climate and weather.

Climate is many years of data and you look at the TREND. The trend over the past 150 years has scientific data showing overall warming. It’s this trend we want to reverse.

Inside the the TREND are ups and downs in yearly weather. Some warmer, some cooler. Their individual events which is WEATHER. All the thousands of ups and downs of the weather events creates the CLIMATE trend.


The trend is warmer. Stop basing a cooling season event as your proof of no Climate Change. It shows your ignorance.

Well actually, the long term trend shows cooling. But, looking at the big picture, we are warming and cooling at the same time -- it just depends on which cycle you are talking about. However, in the shorter-term, the next effect of these cycles shows we are still thawing out from the Little Ice Age.

[MorTech]

Sunspot activity has intensified in Solar Cycle 25. A lot of REAL scientists are now claiming the Ice Age termination event. Ideally conditions on earth for biological life is about 9F warmer than today, with atmospheric CO2 at about 1100 PPM (0.11%).

[MorTech]

Why would anyone trust experts...We should only trust perts.

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Originally Posted by MorTech

Sunspot activity has intensified in Solar Cycle 25. A lot of REAL scientists are now claiming the Ice Age termination event. Ideally conditions on earth for biological life is about 9F warmer than today, with atmospheric CO2 at about 1100 PPM (0.11%).

The last ice age "glaciation" terminated about 8,000 years ago, when our current Interglacial Warm Period peaked in what we now call the Holocene. We are now very slowly headed into the next glaciation.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

What????? Huh?????

That's not what the thread is all about. No one thinks the media should not report a hurricane that is out to sea and may approach land.

The point is that certain powers have an agenda to make TRILLIONS off the backs of our citizens, and the media is either actively or tacitly complicit in pushing this false narrative by forecasting imminent doom via predictions of more frequent and devastating hurricanes and daily reports of "heat indices" vs. the actual temperatures.

I just don't have that much of a problem with "heat indices".

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by AZ SLIM

This article came out yesterday. It's fairly long report on why their forecasts are turning out to be wrong again this year. Hurricane experts now predict below-normal activity into September'''s season peak | Fox Weather

The number and strength of Hurricanes and Global Warming are 2 different (but related subjects). Global Warming is the increased temperatures measured by scientists worldwide that have taken place in the last 30 or so years. Hurricanes increase with ocean temperature, but there are about 4 other factors also. Wind shear prevents hurricanes from forming. It has been HIGH for the last 3 weeks (but that could change). The tropical wave track has been pushing further north than usual. Atmospheric Stability- The air aloft is warmer than normal, which may or may not be caused by water vapor from Tonga could be keeping the upper air warm (a favorite theory by the Weather Club). MJO- an atmospheric wave that goes around the globe every 30 to 60 days.
.........Most BIG storm hits to the US have happened AFTER Sept 10 th.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

Fox News, CSU, and all the experts failed to mention the root cause of the hurricane lull ... Tonga. This was mentioned in prior Weather Club presentations, with the next one this Sep 6, at 4 PM at Lake Miona. Those who study weather data versus climate alarmism are aware of Tonga's unprecedented global warming spike, which is causing unprecedented ripple effects across the global - including monsoon-like rains in the Sahara. The reason those so-called experts refuse to mention Tonga is because it's Tonga's massive injection of "water-vapor" into the stratosphere that's causing the huge global warming temperature spike. In other words it exposes the fraudulent CO2 control-knob theory and clearly shows that water-vapor is the monster greenhouse gas control knob.

Scientists say that is ONE POSSIBLE factor out of about 5.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Just another example of pushing the false global warming agenda.

I would have to say that Global Warming is "settled science". Since it is just recorded temperatures showing increases in about the last 30 years. There is NO mystery to recorded data.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

You forget, they get paid to say certain things and for avoiding to say certain things. Anyone who worked in government (or large bureaucracies) very well know this. I personally know 2 individuals who work for NOAA who said they are not allowed to publicly voice their "expert" opinions about climate climate change while representing NOAA. In other words, those people have a choice -- support your faith or support your family -- and for the most part supporting family comes first -- except for the whistle-blowers. To hear what some are not allowed to say ... Sep 6, 4 PM, Lake Miona.

2 people out of hundreds of thousands of climate experts worldwide. I doubt there could be a conspiracy that BIG.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Correct. Global warming is a reality---it started 20,000 years ago when we were living in caves

It is happening, no one is insisting it isn't

It is real, obviously, since the Northern Hemisphere is no longer covered by 2 miles of ice

However, it has NOTHING TO DO WITH HUMAN ACTIVITY.

Simply look at the temperature increases worldwide in the last 30 years. That data does NOT lie.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

Acid rain was a pollution problem -- we fixed that.

Ozone hole was never proven to be human-caused.

CO2 pollution is a complete lie.

And yes we are all gonna die ... but will most likely live longer than our ancestors due, in part, to global warming and increasing CO2.

Crop yield have stopped rising in last 2 years in the US. The soil has been over-fertilized and over used. And since we supply food to much of the world - there is going to be starvation in many parts. And they will be marching North of the equator due to Global Warming destroying their farming lives. Many are all ready here.

[jimjamuser]

Crop yield have stopped rising in last 2 years in the US. The soil has been over-fertilized and over used. And since we supply food to much of the world - there is going to be starvation in many parts. And they will be marching North of the equator due to Global Warming destroying their farming lives. Many are all ready here.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Birdrm

The problem with trying to forecast a overly active hurricane season is that there are a number of factors that can affect the formation and strength of hurricanes that no forecaster can see 6 months ahead. This is just part of the fear that the world is going to end unless we act now! The problem with this is that many have been saying this for decades yet here were are still doing what we were doing decades ago?

Look at a graph of world population. 2 decades ago it was much less.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by MorTech

Why would anyone trust experts...We should only trust perts.

So experts are RETIRED PERTS ?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

The last ice age "glaciation" terminated about 8,000 years ago, when our current Interglacial Warm Period peaked in what we now call the Holocene. We are now very slowly headed into the next glaciation.

So many pretty colors. Someone may get HIGH on that graph.