[NAB20]

90% effective, basically.

[Bay Kid]

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast

No. You are assuming that the people who are skeptical of Fauci are being told to be skeptical. When in reality, we are skeptical because of the way Fauci has jumped all over the board as far as his recommendations go.

If my own doctor was so indecisive, vague and contradictory I would find another doctor - immediately. In the case of expert opinions, why wouldn't I also choose to listen to other medical experts who actually make sense? I am actually shocked that anyone is still giving Fauci airtime.

The richer he gets the smarter he gets. Can't believe much he says until he is paid over $500,000.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast

Well, Covid is not airborne ebola and if it were you wouldn't have to remind people to stay at home and away from crowds. You wouldn't have parents around the country begging for the schools to reopen. You probably wouldn't get medical attention unless your life literally depended on it. Too dangerous.

And you certainly wouldn't need to have some old guy like Fauci scolding people not to go to Super Bowl parties tonight. Don't compare a Cat 5 hurricane to a tropical storm. Yes, it's possible for people to die or get hurt regardless of the force of the storm but people are going to naturally react a whole lot differently with a Cat 5 vs some blustery winds and rain.

If all of these precautions were enough to virtually eradicate the flu, then one would think that Covid would have gone away, too. But, nope. The Covid numbers only change dramatically when the numbers are manipulated by the people counting them.

Sure let's play the analogy game. We'll use your hurricane.

People who know a hurricane is coming, don't all march out into the town square, without their raincoats, cell phones uncharged or left abandoned in their cars, and proceed to dance the night away in the middle of the storm.

What do people who know a hurricane is coming do?

They make sure they have enough supplies, get more if they don't have enough. They bring the supplies home, and they stay put out of the rain until either the storm is over, or until the weatherman says it was a false alarm. The weatherman doesn't know in advance that it will be a false alarm. He doesn't know that, until after someone has already predicted the storm is coming.

Now compare to Dr. Fauci and masks:

Dr. Fauci learned the storm was coming. At that time, he knew that masks were at a premium, and knew the priority needed to be with the people taking care of everyone else. It was also unknown at the time, the severity of the contagion, because it wasn't yet an actual pandemic. So he said "hey folks - don't buy those N95 masks, you don't need to mask up."

Of course people didn't bother to listen to him, and bought out entire stores' worth of masks, toilet paper, paper towels, sanitizers, rubbing alcohol, leaving people who actually NEEDED that stuff for their weekly use (including people who use catheters, who need rubbing alcohol every day), with nothing.

Then, Dr. Fauci learned from the medical scientists and researchers, hey - masks are useful, and important, let's promote that to the public. Which - he did. He said "hey - that information that we TOLD you was incomplete at the time? Well it's complete now. Wear the masks."

He hasn't really stepped back from that. He still promotes mask wearing as one major method of risk reduction.

And for Dr. Fauci, that is what all of his recommendations are about. They are about reducing the risk of infection.

Masks reduce the risk of infection. From who? From everyone. From the community, from you, from your sister, from your bank teller, from the guy who fixes your golf cart.

If you get up close and personal with someone, you should be wearing a mask. If you refuse to wear a mask, then you need to keep your distance from society until the CDC can say with more certainty that it's over, OR until you change your mind and wear a mask.

But OBB, you say, I already had COVID-19. I'm immune now!

To which I respond, great. Congratulations. Put the mask on anyway. Why? Because it sets the example. It provides comfort to your fellow human being, who doesn't know you, and doesn't know you are immune. It is a small, very inexpensive thing for you to do, that is a minor inconvenience in the scheme of things. It is far less convenient for you to wear a mask, than it is to stop at a red light and wait 3 cycles of the light to change until you can take a left turn. You manage to do that without screaming for your rights, don't you? Well - then wear the damned mask.

[Viperguy]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Twice on TV I have seen the video of Dr. Fauci with his message about being vaccinated. In the video, Dr. Fauci is encouraging people to be vaccinated and what he says is confusing to me. He said "being vaccinated will not only protect you but it will protect your family and also protect your community".

My confusion lies with the fact that we are being informed to continue to wear masks and social distance even after we have received full immunization and achieve immunity. This is because it is not known yet if an immunized person can still transmit the virus.

I'm not sure what to make of this as they are opposing views.

Why listen to this guy? Follow the money. He is getting very wealthy spouting his "opinion" which is seen as gospel to the uninformed. Information has been conflicting ever since the WHO said this thing is not contagious. Sheep

[Aloha1]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Steve Hilton is a British political commentator and former political adviser. He is a conspiracy nutjob, has zero scientific credentials, zero actual investigative credentials, and is basically just a political mouthpiece for the alt-right.

Who Dr. Fauci really is, is transparent, and not some secret thing with a hidden agenda. Only a conspiracy nutjob would claim otherwise.

Your "source" is not credible. Not even almost, sorta maybe has a point credible. Just completely and thoroughly not credible.

Steve Hilton worked for the Prime Minister of the UK. He never claimed scientific credentials. The information in question was presented on one of his recent shows with a timeline backed up by documents of Dr. Fauci's direct involvement in providing funding to the Wuhan lab for research into increasing "gain of function"( increasing the virility) of certain bat viruses.

You may call it a conspiracy theory but I find it worthy of further investigation.

[Justus]

Fauci is one voice. The voices of thousands upon thousands of doctors and medical researchers across the world vehemently disagree with him. They have been silenced and discredited by the media and others who share a common agenda. Never in the history of pandemics has there been such a usurpation of personal freedoms. Never in the history of the world has a child been born to a world of faceless automatons. Never have so many had to die of any cause, absent of the comfort of loved ones.

[Jean G]

the World Health Organization put out information on 1/25/21 stating masks do nothing to protect anyone and they are unnecessary.

[Justus]

Is there anyone besides me who, in January, 2020, watched an on-line video presentation of a meeting that took place in October, 2019, attended by Bill and Melinda Gates, a representative from John Hopkins, WHO director Tedros, and I believe a pharmaceutical entity? The purpose of the meeting was to propose a scenario whereby a Coronavirus strain from China would/could become a world pandemic? I and others watched the video, which was pulled from circulation shortly after a pandemic was declared. Just curious...

[asianthree]

Does one wonder, why unless it is mandatory that Fire fighters, Police officers, Frontline, and healthcare workers are saying NO to the vaccine.

I don’t wonder, I worked with them, and know why they are stepping back.

It’s their decision, and I respect their reasoning. Most of the experienced, or seasoned, have been working since March exposed daily, and are still standing.

Even though I qualify in two areas, I will not be vaccinated for a very long time. Two Epidemiologists, and 3 Physicians, are my guide for my decisions

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby View Post
Steve Hilton is a British political commentator and former political adviser. He is a conspiracy nutjob, has zero scientific credentials, zero actual investigative credentials, and is basically just a political mouthpiece for the alt-right.

Who Dr. Fauci really is, is transparent, and not some secret thing with a hidden agenda. Only a conspiracy nutjob would claim otherwise.

Your "source" is not credible. Not even almost, sorta maybe has a point credible. Just completely and thoroughly not credible.
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Originally Posted by Aloha1

Steve Hilton worked for the Prime Minister of the UK. He never claimed scientific credentials. The information in question was presented on one of his recent shows with a timeline backed up by documents of Dr. Fauci's direct involvement in providing funding to the Wuhan lab for research into increasing "gain of function"( increasing the virility) of certain bat viruses.

You may call it a conspiracy theory but I find it worthy of further investigation.

As usual OJB makes a lot of unsupported statements. Many medical experts agree that Dr. Fauci needs to be investigated for his role in illegal gain of function virus research that was banned under the Obama administration. And China knows this and that is why they say to stop pointing fingers only at them.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Jean G

the World Health Organization put out information on 1/25/21 stating masks do nothing to protect anyone and they are unnecessary.

YOUR POST IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE


"A website screenshot being shared on Facebook has falsely claimed that the World Health Organization (WHO) said in a January 2021 press conference that it was advising people without symptoms of coronavirus not to wear face masks."

Fact check: The World Health Organization did not change advice to say masks are not necessary | Reuters

PLEASE get off of Facebook and do not use that source as any kind of news source on any subject.

You do your self a disservice and reflects on anything you say.....FACTS matter.......especially if you actually believe the tripe being shared on these sources. This is your health and others and you are sharing LIES.

Talk to your family on Facebook, if you must but for goodness sake do not share lies

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Viperguy

Why listen to this guy? Follow the money. He is getting very wealthy spouting his "opinion" which is seen as gospel to the uninformed. Information has been conflicting ever since the WHO said this thing is not contagious. Sheep

Please give us a link that includes info from the WHO that says this "thing is not contagious". I never heard that from any agency, doctor, expert or news source. Are you sure you got that right?

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by John41

Quote:
Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby View Post
Steve Hilton is a British political commentator and former political adviser. He is a conspiracy nutjob, has zero scientific credentials, zero actual investigative credentials, and is basically just a political mouthpiece for the alt-right.

Who Dr. Fauci really is, is transparent, and not some secret thing with a hidden agenda. Only a conspiracy nutjob would claim otherwise.

Your "source" is not credible. Not even almost, sorta maybe has a point credible. Just completely and thoroughly not credible.
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As usual OJB makes a lot of unsupported statements. Many medical experts agree that Dr. Fauci needs to be investigated for his role in illegal gain of function virus research that was banned under the Obama administration. And China knows this and that is why they say to stop pointing fingers only at them.

Can you share any of the "Many medical experts" that you are citing ????

ALSO, provide a link to the "illegal gain of function virus research that was banned under the Obama"

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Jean G

the World Health Organization put out information on 1/25/21 stating masks do nothing to protect anyone and they are unnecessary.

Hogwash! Do not believe that last part of the statement at all. In fact, please give us a link to that information from the WHO.

Masks may not be very protective for the person wearing the mask but they do help to slow the spread via source control. Masks are most certainly necessary for that reason alone.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Dr. Fauci is a political hack.

I agree that he was "used" to make political points by others.....I agree that people in high places flat our lied about him, and defamed him both in public and private.

anthony fauci Archives - FactCheck.org

He was defamed and verbally abused and stood his ground, never flinched and as time goes on is once again proven to be on the right track.

He never gave into personal attacks and has always maintained his professional stance.

Fact-checking Sen. Marco Rubio's criticism of Dr. Anthony Fauci - CNNPolitics