[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by PugMom

there's something very odd about this whole story & no one is covering it: the fact that floyd & the officer KNEW EACH OTHER, & had once worked the same security detail outside a nightclub. i had to read that in the uk mail, & they even had a picture taken of the 2 standing together. it is my belief this cop knew who's neck he was kneeling on, the question is why. where, oh where is Perry Mason?

Somebody didn't read the thread before posting!

Yes they worked at the same club, but according to the owner, one worked inside and the other outside and they rarely (if ever) worked the same shift...

There is ZERO evidence that they knew each other...

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Like many of todays problem, race and politics is a major factor on public opinion, and so it has proved in this case.
One half of the political/racial divide calls it murder, and the other half call it justifiable homicide.
From the majority of media reports and opinions I have seen and read so far, the officer has already been found guilty.
One thing for sure, if the verdict is anything but guilty, Minnesota will be burning!
JMO.

Going to burn anyway.

[Justus]

Originally Posted by jmintzer5

Somebody didn't read the thread before posting!

Yes they worked at the same club, but according to the owner, one worked inside and the other outside and they rarely (if ever) worked the same shift...

There is ZERO evidence that they knew each other...

Correct! And doesn't it seem strange that throughout the arrest, while he was in intimate proximity of the police officer (who is now, in this forum, being accused of "passing counterfeit bills and/or drugs"), Floyd, never once showed any sign of recognizing him. One would have expected some sign, especially if they were accomplices in some illicit activity.

No wonder thousands of LEO's are leaving their jobs, for the fear every day of having to kill a citizen in the line of duty. They DO NOT go to work looking for a deadly encounter, contrary to the belief of some people in this forum. If their worst nightmare becomes reality, they are immediately and uniformly convicted by the press, and by some members of the very people they are sworn to serve, before any opportunity to tell their side of the story. Anything they do on the job, every move they make could destroy their lives and those of their families in a heartbeat.

The recent, ill-conceived prejudice against police officers - especially white cops, who are now collectively presumed to be racist, will have disastrous results. When all the decent, idealistic young LEO's are no longer there to be dragged through the mud, who will be left to choose from to fill their positions? I shudder to think!

BTW, if you ask any LEO why they suffer the slings and arrows of the job, they will almost uniformly say they'd wanted to be a police officer since they were children. Why? Because they want to be heroes, to help others and save lives.

[Love2Swim]

Numerous experts say Floyd's death was caused by "law enforcement restraint and neck compression". He died from oxygen deprivation. He died one breath at a time over an extended time period. And he was handcuffed at the time. The 911 operator was able to view Floyd on video during the call and said she thought her computer was frozen because the cop had his knee on Floyd's neck for so long. She was concerned enough that she reported it to a supervisor.

[44Apple]

Originally Posted by Swoop

The fact is that if Floyd was white, the story wouldn’t have even been covered by the national news media...

But he wasn't.

[Justus]

Originally Posted by Love2Swim

Numerous experts say Floyd's death was caused by "law enforcement restraint and neck compression". He died from oxygen deprivation. He died one breath at a time over an extended time period. And he was handcuffed at the time. The 911 operator was able to view Floyd on video during the call and said she thought her computer was frozen because the cop had his knee on Floyd's neck for so long. She was concerned enough that she reported it to a supervisor.

Not what the post mortem said...

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by 44Apple

But he wasn't.

Are you sure?
Did we land on the moon?
Is the earth round?

[Joe V.]

Originally Posted by Love2Swim

Numerous experts say Floyd's death was caused by "law enforcement restraint and neck compression". He died from oxygen deprivation. He died one breath at a time over an extended time period. And he was handcuffed at the time. The 911 operator was able to view Floyd on video during the call and said she thought her computer was frozen because the cop had his knee on Floyd's neck for so long. She was concerned enough that she reported it to a supervisor.

Numerous experts did not say that is how he died. That was easy.

[Love2Swim]

Originally Posted by Justus

Not what the post mortem said...

A private post mortem performed by Dr. Michael Baden, former New York City medical examiner, said that the cause of death was asphyxia, due to compression to the neck-which can interfere with oxygen going to the brain - and compression to the back, which interferes with breathing.

The Hennepin County Medical Examiner final post mortem said the manner of death was a homicide, and cause of death was cardiopulmonary arrest arising from law enforcement restraint, and neck compression.

Both post mortems agree that death was a homicide. The police knew what they were doing could cause death, and they continued even past the time that they couldn't find a pulse. How could they continue kneeling on him 2 minutes after he didn't have a pulse, when he was handcuffed? If you watch the video, you hear him pleading, saying he can't breathe. His voice gets weaker, and weaker, until he is no longer capable of speaking. There is no way this cop is getting off without jail time. What he did was criminal.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Love2Swim

A private post mortem performed by Dr. Michael Baden, former New York City medical examiner, said that the cause of death was asphyxia, due to compression to the neck-which can interfere with oxygen going to the brain - and compression to the back, which interferes with breathing.

I can't remember...................Who paid him??

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by 44Apple

But he wasn't.

And that’s the reason the national media promoted that story. If the police kneeled on the neck of a white man and he died, you would have never heard about it. The media decides what you see and decides what you should be outraged about...

[Bay Kid]

Originally Posted by PugMom

there's something very odd about this whole story & no one is covering it: the fact that floyd & the officer KNEW EACH OTHER, & had once worked the same security detail outside a nightclub. i had to read that in the uk mail, & they even had a picture taken of the 2 standing together. it is my belief this cop knew who's neck he was kneeling on, the question is why. where, oh where is Perry Mason?

Counterfeit money. Could this be about money? If we follow the money the nightclub is for sure going to say they didn't know each other.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Love2Swim

Numerous experts say Floyd's death was caused by "law enforcement restraint and neck compression". He died from oxygen deprivation. He died one breath at a time over an extended time period. And he was handcuffed at the time. The 911 operator was able to view Floyd on video during the call and said she thought her computer was frozen because the cop had his knee on Floyd's neck for so long. She was concerned enough that she reported it to a supervisor.

"Numerous experts"?

Did they perform the autopsy? Because the autopsy says otherwise...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

I can't remember...................Who paid him??

Oooh, Oooh! Oooh! I know! The family trying to get paid!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

Counterfeit money. Could this be about money? If we follow the money the nightclub is for sure going to say they didn't know each other.

Floyd had stopped working at the same nightclub as Chauvin in 2019. He died in 2020...