[manaboutown]

The reality is the mean weighted by population ratios of one minority I need not name to whites across 13 large cities is 11.2 for violent crimes, 21 for arrests for murder and 5.6 for property crimes. These statistics are reported in Chapter 4 of the book I previously noted and come from large databases.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

In UK there are very few deaths from gun crime.
Somewhere between 30-40 a year.
Guns in circulation are mainly with gangs.
Most gun deaths and crimes are gang related.
Win! Win!!

Most gun deaths in the US are "gang related", as well...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by LoisR

Who are you looking to blame? How about the NRA and the politicians they support them?

Yes, the NRA (and their members) are out there shooting people...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Billy1

A persons fear can be measured by the number of guns they have. Seek the love of God.

Bwahahaha!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I am 81 years old. I have never known or seen or heard of a shooting in my neighborhood. We both have tried to work hard and save and not buy foolish or unneeded things so that our children could live in a safe area with good schools. We enjoyed that kind of life and so we continued to pick safe areas to live.

Not everyone has or should have a political philosophy that hits every single thing of the party they recently voted for. We feel safe and when we do not feel safe we will buy things or change things. So far. So good. I don't know what the future will bring but I don't have any thing anyone would want. The kids don't even want the dishes. I don't like expensive jewelry and even thieves can buy their own TV set and have it put in the car for not a lot of dough. I would feel quite nice if someone would steal one of my paintings.

I am kidding around but don't let this white hair fool ya. You run your railroad and I'll run mine.

Every neighborhood is safe... Until it isn't...

This family lived in one of the safest neighborhoods in MD.

Two of the daughters babysat my kids...

Handyman is charged in slayings of 4 Potomac family members, painter - Baltimore Sun

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Every neighborhood is safe... Until it isn't...

This family lived in one of the safest neighborhoods in MD.

Two of the daughters babysat my kids...

Handyman is charged in slayings of 4 Potomac family members, painter - Baltimore Sun

I don't think of that area is safe at all. I chose to live here. It is safe for now and when it isn't our plans will change.

Crime in Baltimore
Baltimore, Maryland, U.S. is notorious for its significantly high crime rate, including a violent crime rate that ranks high above the national average. Violent crime spiked in 2015 after the death of Freddie Gray on April 19, 2015, which touched off riots and an increase in murders. The city recorded 348 homicides in 2019, a number second only to the number recorded in 1993 when the population was nearly 125,000 higher.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I don't think of that area is safe at all. I chose to live here. It is safe for now and when it isn't our plans will change.

Crime in Baltimore
Baltimore, Maryland, U.S. is notorious for its significantly high crime rate, including a violent crime rate that ranks high above the national average. Violent crime spiked in 2015 after the death of Freddie Gray on April 19, 2015, which touched off riots and an increase in murders. The city recorded 348 homicides in 2019, a number second only to the number recorded in 1993 when the population was nearly 125,000 higher.

The paper is the Baltimore Sun, the crime was committed in Potomac MD. Equating the two is like looking for Royal Carribean cruise ships on Lake Sumter because the Daily Sun had an article about them.

Also note that the article is 26 years old. Has anyplace not been touched by violence of some sort in the last 26 years?

[LateBoomer]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Every neighborhood is safe... Until it isn't...

This family lived in one of the safest neighborhoods in MD.

Two of the daughters babysat my kids...

Handyman is charged in slayings of 4 Potomac family members, painter - Baltimore Sun

you do get the concept of "probabilities" right? You're not going to suggest that Potomac, MD is as dangerous as Baltimore, are you? You want to play that game? I can show you stats all day long.

Potomac violent crime is 3.3. (The US average is 22.7)
Potomac property crime is 8.2. (The US average is 35.4)

Baltimore violent crime is 77.8. (The US average is 22.7)
Baltimore property crime is 67.6. (The US average is 35.4)

so I guess we need to discuss probabilities - the Baltimore violent crime rate 23.57 TIMES higher than Potomac, MD and the property crime rate is 8.2 times higher.

but sure, bring out an article about a murder 26 years ago. probabilities mean NOTHING. LOL

and by the way, Potomac has not had a murder since before 2007 at least. NONE. probably longer than that, but that's the only as far as i could find statistics. Baltimore is on pace for like 400 murders THIS YEAR.

so your point is.....?

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Most gun deaths in the US are "gang related", as well...

Then it's a Win! Win! for US as well then.
Who cares if the bad guys all shoot each other.
The more the merrier!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I don't think of that area is safe at all. I chose to live here. It is safe for now and when it isn't our plans will change.

Crime in Baltimore
Baltimore, Maryland, U.S. is notorious for its significantly high crime rate, including a violent crime rate that ranks high above the national average. Violent crime spiked in 2015 after the death of Freddie Gray on April 19, 2015, which touched off riots and an increase in murders. The city recorded 348 homicides in 2019, a number second only to the number recorded in 1993 when the population was nearly 125,000 higher.

Who the hell was talking about Baltimore? Yes, that place has become a sh!thole...

The story I linked was in Potomac, MD... Try googling that...

Reading is fundamental...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by LateBoomer

you do get the concept of "probabilities" right? You're not going to suggest that Potomac, MD is as dangerous as Baltimore, are you? You want to play that game? I can show you stats all day long.

Potomac violent crime is 3.3. (The US average is 22.7)
Potomac property crime is 8.2. (The US average is 35.4)

Baltimore violent crime is 77.8. (The US average is 22.7)
Baltimore property crime is 67.6. (The US average is 35.4)

so I guess we need to discuss probabilities - the Baltimore violent crime rate 23.57 TIMES higher than Potomac, MD and the property crime rate is 8.2 times higher.

but sure, bring out an article about a murder 26 years ago. probabilities mean NOTHING. LOL

and by the way, Potomac has not had a murder since before 2007 at least. NONE. probably longer than that, but that's the only as far as i could find statistics. Baltimore is on pace for like 400 murders THIS YEAR.

so your point is.....?

Want me to list the current stats?

Property crime is way up. There have been more than several murders since.

Less than 10 miles away, MS-13 is killing people weekly...

I picked that incidence for it's depravity and the fact that I knew the family...

[Road-Runner]

Originally Posted by MandoMan

Only half as many Hispanics die from being shot by firearms as do Euro-Americans, and twice as many African-Americans.

Statistics and 'labels' will often lie. If you ever read a police blotter website like the one for Brevard County, Florida one thing begins to stand out. MOST with obviously Latin features and names like Rodriguez and Aurelio are listed as 'white' not 'Hispanic'. Easily half or more are listed this way meaning the crimes they commit are attributed to whites as well. I'd love to see some statistics that showed just 'Euro-Americans', I'm betting they would make an even starker comparison to the 13%.

[LateBoomer]

lol. less than 10 miles away. in the DC area, 10 miles is an ETERNITY. yes, please tell me how crime is virtually the same wherever you live. that there is no difference. lol

don't be a fool

[LateBoomer]

I lived in the DC area for 20 years. I know quite a lot about it. guessing you never have? probably never even HEARD of Potomac, MD.

but let me educate you. here's a recent crime heat map. Take I dunno a WILD guess how the demographics relate to this map? Also, take a wild guess where Potomac is ? just north, outside the DC border, along the river above the deepest green area.
any clue as to what that means?

it's called probabilities. Crime 'can' happen anywhere. But in general, it is far more likely to happen in some areas compared to others. but I guess you skipped the day they taught probabilities in college?

[spd2918]

It's the culture, not the ethnicities, not poverty, and not gun ownership (my guns have never killed anyone, despite being mostly unsupervised).

Many young black men enjoy a culture of violence and most of their victims are other young black men engaging in the same cultural practices. Play stupid games and you will win stupid prizes.

Their is a correlation between bad cultural practices and the bad financial practices that lead to poverty. That is very different than poverty causing crime. Its bad parenting and bad culture.

Fatherlessness is the number one factor in criminality and the number one factor in poverty. Follow the statistics for any group whose culture places little value on fatherhood and you find major problems. Double down for teen mothers who let their kids be raised by grandparents.

The "13% of the popularion" statistic is a bit misleading, as the blacks that commit the majority of the killings are overwhelmingly male (half of the 13%, or 6.5%) and young (maybe 2.5% or so of the US population). That is much more sobering.

I find it interesting that one political party manages all the most violent cities and then blames the other party. The government sure as hell only makes things worse with their communist policies and racial "education" blame game.