[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by iht2209

Lake county also had a raise in cases.

Lots of protests in Lake County, here's one in Clermont

[Girlcopper]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

This has been going on for more than 2 months. Most people in TV are 65 plus and if they get so much as the sniffles, they are going to get tested. If there was a large scale infection of Villagers we would know about it by now.

Exactly correct. Broward and Dade have a large population of tourists, and seasonal residents. Yeah, TV does too but So. fl is more densely populated. Those counties have been the highest in the state since this began so nothing has changed. They have increased the amount of testing areas so, of course, more tests more positives probably asystemic. So, if you want more testing in TV expect your positive results will soar

[raney3099]

We do. The urgent care on 42 by Mulberry you just walk in no appt. and get tested.

[17362]

Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus

We'll be able to draw a more informed conclusion as to whether the spike is attributable to the Floyd protests or the reopening a little later. If the percent positive on the state's Covid-19 dashboard goes down steadily after about June 19-20, it will be a pretty good indication the upsurge was due to the protests...and will not bode well for starting up concerts again.

However, if the numbers do come down in a week or so, the stock market and the rest of the country will breathe a sigh of relief that the reopening wasn't as ill-advised as some thought. That is, until the next wave in the fall.

And let’s not forget Father’s Day... typically multiunit families get together. You know like Christmas and Easter.

[Bethwill]

Originally Posted by Beyond The Wall

I disagree. How can it be acceptable to gather in large groups, not wearing your precious masks, especially in areas with the highest concentration of the virus? As it is said, “ Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me” The country and state listened to the “ Experts”, ( wrong at least 50% of the time) in March. All should never let it happen again. Bottom line, spike is from protesters .

I had heard that spike is a combination from migrant camps, protesters, AND more testing. No one thing. Live life with common sense.

[Mardarlowe]

Can't have a funeral but by all means a protest is acceptable. Comical.

[Andyb]

The re-opening was needed to save the economy. The protest only hurt everything, as most of these people don’t work and feed off the Government.
Since there is more testing, more cases. Really need to look at the number of hospitalization, to get a better picture of what is happening.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus

You may be right about exponential spread. But I'm leaning toward your side, GoodLife (if I'm interpreting your "side" correctly) - I tend to think the uptick is because of the protests, or at least I'm curious to find out. What data do you think we need then, and when, to identify the protests as the cause of the upsurge, if indeed any data will point to the protests as the cause?

Or, in your opinion, will the cause of the uptick forever remain unknown, and your message is merely to point to Florida's population centers, rather than an event, to explain the upsurge?

Without contact tracing, it's difficult to know source of infection, and doing contact tracing in a protest of thousands of people is probably impossible.

When your average time from exposure to symptoms is 5-6 days, and you get a large spike 5-6 days after huge protests it's a pretty good indicator.

Florida began reopening on May 4, if that is the cause why did it take until June 12 for a spike? Largest spikes on June 12 were in Dade, Palm Beach, and Broward counties and those counties are under tighter reopening restrictions than the rest of Florida.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by claricecolin

The current spike now is most likely from Memorial day weekend. Numbers in the coming next 2 weeks are most likely from the protests and more things opening up.

If it was Memorial Day weekend (May23-25) the spike would happen before June 12.

Maybe I need to define what averages and medians mean?

The researchers found that the average time it took for symptoms to appear was 5.5 days, and the median—or midpoint by which half of the people who developed symptoms had started to feel sick—was 5.1 days. Overall, fewer than 2.5 percent of infected people started showing symptoms within 2.2 days, and 97.5 percent had developed symptoms within 11.5 days.

[sparky4840]

I heard. More rumors and fake news.

[coconutmama]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Appears we have a spike in cases here in Florida. So I took a look at the Florida Dashboard county report to see where it's happening. The spike started on June 12.

Almost 70% of the new cases on June 12 came from 7 counties with Dade, Palm Beach, Broward, Hillsborough, and Orange counties racking up the highest numbers.

The average time from exposure to symptoms of covid 19 is 5-6 days. Huge protests for George Floyd took place on the weekend of June 5-6, and some of the largest ones were in these counties. Although it is harder to catch the virus outdoors, epidemiologists say that chanting and screaming expel more virus, exactly what happens in protests. They were packed together pretty tight in the larger protests.

Sumter County had no protests, and have had only 5 new cases in the last 9 days.
Marion County did have a protest, not thousands but several hundred, and they had a mini spike of 10 cases on June 12.

It's kind of funny that we still can't have fans at golf tournaments but many officials and even health departments gave their blessing to the protests, saying it was "too important"

Most of the media will try to blame reopening too early as cause of the spike, it was amazing how they switched from covid 19 24/7 to George Floyd 24/7

You can take a look at the Florida county data here:

http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_pa...rts_latest.pdf

We had a BLM rally here in TV on Sunday, plus a Villagers for Trump rally on the same day. However I believe most attendees were more cautious & respectful as far as masks than the protests outside of TV. Let’s see if we have a spike at the end of the month. Of course TV has had more grandchildren & guests this month than we’ve had since January, so that will muddy the factors. Not to mention more driveway parties without social distancing lately, and restaurants/stores relaxing masks...as it is said, “time will tell”

[jlo2012]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Appears we have a spike in cases here in Florida. So I took a look at the Florida Dashboard county report to see where it's happening. The spike started on June 12.

Almost 70% of the new cases on June 12 came from 7 counties with Dade, Palm Beach, Broward, Hillsborough, and Orange counties racking up the highest numbers.

The average time from exposure to symptoms of covid 19 is 5-6 days. Huge protests for George Floyd took place on the weekend of June 5-6, and some of the largest ones were in these counties. Although it is harder to catch the virus outdoors, epidemiologists say that chanting and screaming expel more virus, exactly what happens in protests. They were packed together pretty tight in the larger protests.

Sumter County had no protests, and have had only 5 new cases in the last 9 days.
Marion County did have a protest, not thousands but several hundred, and they had a mini spike of 10 cases on June 12.

It's kind of funny that we still can't have fans at golf tournaments but many officials and even health departments gave their blessing to the protests, saying it was "too important"

Most of the media will try to blame reopening too early as cause of the spike, it was amazing how they switched from covid 19 24/7 to George Floyd 24/7

You can take a look at the Florida county data here:

http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_pa...rts_latest.pdf

I am not certain, but three relatives of mine recently tested positive for antibodies to COVID-19. They were never tested for the virus. They all had mild symptoms and have since recovered. They all received calls from the health department and are now part of the COVID-19 statistics. How many others are in the same situation but no longer contagious? Like I said, I am not certain this is the cause of recent spikes, but it could account for some of the stats.

[Luvs21putt]

You also have to factor in the delay in getting test results and then reporting

[rmd2]

[QUOTE=GoodLife;1785011]Lots of protests in Lake County, here's one in Clermont

Clermont was one that was the biggest spike in cases in the area. I didn't know there was a protest there but that could be the cause for the spike in Clermont.

[icedice]

You can test everyone in TV and the next day someone can go to Orlando ,catch the virus and infect many on return. .The onl y way to stop it is with a vaccine or never leave your house