[BarryRX]

First of all, thanks to everyone, veggies and non-veggies for the great feedback to my last post. I wasn't going to post again so soon, but I had a very productive day today and found two great local resources. After juicing for breakfast my morning favorite of pears, an apple, two carrots and some ginger, I searched google for health food stores. I found a listing for a place in Tavares called Living Green Health Foods. I took a ride to their store and for lunch had their delicious signature smoothie called "living green." It has coconut milk, orange juice, kale, spinach, apple, pineapple, banana and ginger. Then, a new veggie friend told me about a line of frozen foods called Amy's Kitchen that is carried in publics and sweet bay and most of our other markets. For dinner tonight I had the Enchilada dinner and it too was great. It has all organic ingredients and tasted as good as what I get in a restaurant. Still loving the lifestyle, but so far it has not improved my putting. Thanks again to everyone who knows more about this than I do. Your input and encouragement is a rush!

[TheVillageChicken]

Originally Posted by BarryRX

Still loving the lifestyle, but so far it has not improved my putting. Thanks again to everyone who knows more about this than I do. Your input and encouragement is a rush!

My putting improved tremendously after Doc prescribed a beta blocker. Unintended good consequence.

[BarryRX]

Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken

My putting improved tremendously after Doc prescribed a beta blocker. Unintended good consequence.

Yup! Also good for public speaking jitters.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Sounds like you have a huge sugar intake.

[BarryRX]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

Sounds like you have a huge sugar intake.

My usual breakfast of juicing two pears, an apple, two carrots, and some ginger gives me about 66 grams of carbs. If I have my usual "mean green " lunch juicing kale, spinach, celery, carrots, ginger, and an apple, that adds 22 grams of carbs for a running total of 88 grams. My solid food vegetarian dinner usually adds about 25 grams of carbs for a running total 113 carbs. So, you are correct that on the occasional day I substitute a smoothie, my carb intake can get up around 165 grams. But since it's a once in a while treat, I try to keep my daily carbs in the 100 to 150 range. I think that's considered "moderate". But you've also pointed out something that I just read about. Sometimes people go on an all fruit diet or a 3 day fruit juice cleanse and wonder why they gain weight. It's because of all the carbs. Even though the carbs you get from fruits are full of nutrients also, unlike the worthless carbs from processed foods like white bread, at the end of the day carbs are carbs and should be consumed in moderation. Thanks for sending me running to google to learn more about what I'm doing. It truly is a learning process.

[shcisamax]

BarryRX Thanks for sharing. I am going to take a trip to Tavares for a smoothie treat! Please keep posting.

[BarryRX]

Originally Posted by shcisamax

BarryRX Thanks for sharing. I am going to take a trip to Tavares for a smoothie treat! Please keep posting.

You're very welcome. It's a different kind of little store facing the lake. I may head back there today because it looks like the town was setting up for a fair. I had never been to Tavares before. It looked like a nice town. Enjoy the smoothie!

[bkcunningham1]

I'm not an expert but I would think that proper carb intake is an individual thing based on each person's body, metabolic health, health issues, activity level et al.

What kind of juicer are you using? Do you feel full when you drink your morning smoothie?

[BarryRX]

Originally Posted by bkcunningham1

I'm not an expert but I would think that proper carb intake is an individual thing based on each person's body, metabolic health, health issues, activity level et al.

What kind of juicer are you using? Do you feel full when you drink your morning smoothie?

Hi BK, To be clear, yesterday when I went to Tavares was the first time I have had a smoothie. My morning drink and afternoon drink are juices. Because my wife sleeps late and the juicer is noisy, I don't make my morning juice until 9am, although sometimes if I have to be out early for golf I'll make it the night before and put it in the fridge. If I start feeling hungry before noon, I'll just grab a handful of almonds which I need for protein anyway. My lunchtime juice around 1230 leaves me feeling pretty full I start feeling hungry again around 5 and eat a vegetarian entree around 6. I bought the Breville juicer and am very happy with it. It was $99 on Amazon. I think you are absolutely right about the carbs. What may be a moderate carb intake for an active person may be way too many carbs for a sedentary person. I am very pleasantly surprised that hunger has not been a problem. I am obviously expending more calories than I'm taking in because I'm losing weight. In the past, my body would go "uh oh, we must be starving to death...time to over eat." But not now.

[jimbo2012]

Originally Posted by BarryRX

Because my wife sleeps late and the juicer is noisy, I don't make my morning juice until 9am, although sometimes if I have to be out early for golf I'll make it the night before and put it in the fridge.

when it sits like that it loses alot, it should be drank within an hour

[Abby10]

Originally Posted by bkcunningham1

I'm not an expert but I would think that proper carb intake is an individual thing based on each person's body, metabolic health, health issues, activity level et al.

What kind of juicer are you using? Do you feel full when you drink your morning smoothie?

bkcunningham - you are probably right about that. In reading the science behind the Atkins diet many years ago, I remember it explaining how to gradually add carbs back into your diet to maintain your weight. His reasoning was the same as yours, that it is an individual thing.

One of the things that surprised me in researching sugar/carb content of various fruits and vegetables a while back, was how some vegetables actually contain more sugar than some fruits.

Thanks, barryrx, for continuing to share. It's great to have this exchange of thoughts and ideas!

[bkcunningham1]

Thank you, Barry and Abby. It is all a learning process. It is nice to read someone's firsthand account of the experience. I have been curious about it off and on for sometime and recently thought about giving it a try. Your posts may be just the push I need to give it a whirl, pun intended.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by BarryRX

My usual breakfast of juicing two pears, an apple, two carrots, and some ginger gives me about 66 grams of carbs. If I have my usual "mean green " lunch juicing kale, spinach, celery, carrots, ginger, and an apple, that adds 22 grams of carbs for a running total of 88 grams. My solid food vegetarian dinner usually adds about 25 grams of carbs for a running total 113 carbs. So, you are correct that on the occasional day I substitute a smoothie, my carb intake can get up around 165 grams. But since it's a once in a while treat, I try to keep my daily carbs in the 100 to 150 range. I think that's considered "moderate". But you've also pointed out something that I just read about. Sometimes people go on an all fruit diet or a 3 day fruit juice cleanse and wonder why they gain weight. It's because of all the carbs. Even though the carbs you get from fruits are full of nutrients also, unlike the worthless carbs from processed foods like white bread, at the end of the day carbs are carbs and should be consumed in moderation. Thanks for sending me running to google to learn more about what I'm doing. It truly is a learning process.

I don't think of 150 grams of carbs as moderate at all. Add to that, your ingesting all of those carbs in the form of fructose and most importantly, without the fiber. Don't you think that's a problem?

[BarryRX]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

I don't think of 150 grams of carbs as moderate at all. Add to that, your ingesting all of those carbs in the form of fructose and most importantly, without the fiber. Don't you think that's a problem?

Because of your earlier post, I changed my morning juice. I've added carrots and eliminated a pear. It now has 44 grams of carbs. My afternoon drink has 22 grams, and for dinner I'm eating solid food with lots of fiber and minimal carbs. That should keep my daily carbs under 100 gm and my fiber at dinner plus snacks of celery should be ok. Again, thanks for the input. It does sound like some people who have been on Atkins are telling me that any carbs are too much. I wonder if Jimbo or VillagesPL can tell me anything about it.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by BarryRX

Because of your earlier post, I changed my morning juice. I've added carrots and eliminated a pear. It now has 44 grams of carbs. My afternoon drink has 22 grams, and for dinner I'm eating solid food with lots of fiber and minimal carbs. That should keep my daily carbs under 100 gm and my fiber at dinner plus snacks of celery should be ok. Again, thanks for the input. It does sound like some people who have been on Atkins are telling me that any carbs are too much. I wonder if Jimbo or VillagesPL can tell me anything about it.

First of all, I wouldn't make any dietary changes based on my posts or the posts of anyone else on this site. I do what I do based on what I've read on the subject of nutrition.

For me, based on my beliefs, the carbs are way too much. But more than that I would be concerned about you ingesting that much sugar all at once with no fat or fiber to slow down the absorption into the bloodstream.

But to me, sugar is more of an enemy than anything else. I don't understand the science behind juicing. I admit that I haven't studied much about it, but it seems to run contrary to everything that I understand about eating healthy.