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Old 09-01-2021, 04:46 PM
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If rudeness to employees by patrons wasn't tolerated by management you would see a significant decrease in bad behavior. No company is going to go out of business if they tell jerks to leave the premises. In fact as a customer I will be more supportive of a business if they do kick out jerks so I don't have to listen to their idiocy.
If a business allows jerks to disrupt my dining experience I won't be back. We were at a national steakhouse chain restaurant where there was a group of 5 boys between 9 and 11 or so and 4 adults. The brats were running around the tables yelling and playing tag. I called for the manager and all she couldn't do anything but offer to let us eat free. I asked her who wants to eat a meal and have to put up with that garbage even if the meal if free. She didn't have an answer. I wrote the CEO of the corporation explaining what happened. I'll give him credit, he did return my letter and apologized but said he couldn't change the policy of the restaurant on obnoxious customers. He gave us $60 in vouchers for the restaurant, they went into the trash and we never went back, and I badmouthed them to everyone I knew.
Watch some UTube videos, it isn't just older people being jerks, it is all age groups.
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Old 09-01-2021, 05:02 PM
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The point of the OP is not that workers aren't being treated fairly by employers. It's that they're no longer being treated fairly by customers.

You can pay me $20/hour for a cashier job at the supermarket, with full medical benefits and yearly dues at the local gym, company picnic, and monthly rewards. It won't make the job any easier to handle if the customers are abusive.

That's why people are leaving in droves. Customers are angrier than usual, they're expressing their anger more than usual, and the cashiers and other "front end" people have had it.
Retail workers and other workers do NOT just work for wages. Some like to leave the house and socialize and ALSO get paid for it. Humans are social animals - they like to have a tribe. That is why so many retired TV Landers play softball - they want to socialize in an organized, already set up manner and a TEAM gives them that. As does exercise clubs, social clubs, card clubs, bird watching and etc.

Many retail workers are inherently friendly. At least they start out that way. Generically, grumpy old men (and some women) can have their friendliness worn away over the years. Low wages that increase slower than the consumer price index (CPI) are also a factor that FORCES them out. No one stays there long enough to form lasting friends and teamwork. Part of the military success with retention is trying to build up teamwork and promising step-by-step promotion based on MERIT!
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Old 09-01-2021, 07:12 PM
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Then why should they treat someone who smokes?
Why treat someone who was drunk and got into an accident?
Or treat someone who was speeding and crashed….
Well maybe, because a normal patient's smoker-breath might STANK, but a CV patient's breath might KILL a hospital worker - inconvenience versus death - NOT a difficult choice.
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Old 09-01-2021, 07:23 PM
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have you ever considered protecting yourself & not controlling the actions of others?
One can ONLY protect themselves by HOPING that some sensible federal government, state, or agency MANDATES protection for everyone. The individual can not protect themselves against an airborne Virus without having a separate air supply. Or moving to Canada.
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Old 09-01-2021, 10:12 PM
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Old 09-01-2021, 10:25 PM
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The point of the OP is not that workers aren't being treated fairly by employers. It's that they're no longer being treated fairly by customers.

You can pay me $20/hour for a cashier job at the supermarket, with full medical benefits and yearly dues at the local gym, company picnic, and monthly rewards. It won't make the job any easier to handle if the customers are abusive.

That's why people are leaving in droves. Customers are angrier than usual, they're expressing their anger more than usual, and the cashiers and other "front end" people have had it.
Try working on a golf course.

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Old 09-02-2021, 06:23 AM
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It's not hard to find the ratio, just look at closed businesses versus open businesses. As an example breakfast station and Perkins in Leesburg are both busy and I've had excellent service from waitstaff that have been there for years. In fact at Perkins there is one waitress working there 20 plus years that I have been served for 20 plus years. Go right down the road to Burger King and you'll find that it's closed. I've also gone there for many years and I've noticed workers stay in average of 4 weeks.
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Old 09-02-2021, 06:24 AM
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If you want your favorite restaurant to stay open and have wait staff, you can do your part by giving them a good tip and saying thank you back at them . When you go to Publix or Walmart you can also say thank you . far too people do that
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Old 09-02-2021, 06:41 AM
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Hospital and Medical professionals should Not have to treat non- vaccinated people! Putting their lives on the line on a daily basis is why there is a mass exodus of Nurses....This pandemic is a Global Intelligence test that China has created!
Sick people go to the hospital to get treated regardless of who they are and what they have. Medical personnel treated covid patients for a year BEFORE vaccines were available and now they want to FIRE THEM FOR NOT BEING VACCINATED? How stupid is that?
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Old 09-02-2021, 06:42 AM
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Hospital and Medical professionals should Not have to treat non- vaccinated people! Putting their lives on the line on a daily basis is why there is a mass exodus of Nurses....This pandemic is a Global Intelligence test that China has created!
I only agree with the first sentence barring any logical medical reason
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Old 09-02-2021, 06:45 AM
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Well maybe, because a normal patient's smoker-breath might STANK, but a CV patient's breath might KILL a hospital worker - inconvenience versus death - NOT a difficult choice.
98.6 percent of covid patients get through without dying.
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Old 09-02-2021, 06:48 AM
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Strangely, that made me TRY to think of a way that medical personnel could treat the UNvaccinated patients WITHOUT exposing themselves to the CV disease - the answer is they would have to breathe SEPERATE AIR! So, the medical people ALL would have to be wearing FULL HAZMAT suits and have air tanks - that would make tasks like surgery very impossible. Or science has to develop and engineer medical personnel controlled or A.I. self-controlled robots doing the work of Doctors and Nurses. Oh well, that's just Science Fiction............for now
Sick or injured people should go elsewhere!
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Old 09-02-2021, 06:50 AM
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Hospital and Medical professionals should Not have to treat non- vaccinated people! Putting their lives on the line on a daily basis is why there is a mass exodus of Nurses....This pandemic is a Global Intelligence test that China has created!
Uh,, if the shots are effective, what's the worry? If they're NOT effective, why (try to) mandate them?
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Hospital and Medical professionals should Not have to treat non- vaccinated people! Putting their lives on the line on a daily basis is why there is a mass exodus of Nurses....This pandemic is a Global Intelligence test that China has created!
What flavor was the koolade?
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Old 09-02-2021, 07:01 AM
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I understand your opinion but we do not live in a free country. There are plenty of rules and regulations from seat belts to no smoking to kids getting vaccinated if they want to go to public schools, so why are you so upset that everyone has to wear a mask?
I believe you meant to say, "We do not live in an unregulated by laws country." Last I checked, this is a free country but, everyone has responsibilities and unless their actions are against the law, they are free to do as they please.
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